River call or Not

[neeko]

------HAND 5------
Game #1233473264: Hold'em NL (150/300) - 2005/12/30 - 23:36:01 (UK)
Table "£10K FRIDAY 1600366 - 3" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: The House (23087.50 in chips)
Seat 2: dazza0009 (10394 in chips)
Seat 3: Fatste (7190 in chips)
Seat 4: Stokkis (4217.50 in chips)
Seat 5: 1986 (3704.50 in chips)
Seat 6: psorange (10247 in chips)
Seat 7: Neeko (10860 in chips)
Seat 8: SHAABOOM (3030 in chips)
Seat 9: Rebecca05 (5575 in chips)
Seat 10: Lotion (8625 in chips)
The House: posts the ante 25
dazza0009: posts the ante 25
Fatste: posts the ante 25
Stokkis: posts the ante 25
1986: posts the ante 25
psorange: posts the ante 25
Neeko: posts the ante 25
SHAABOOM: posts the ante 25
Rebecca05: posts the ante 25
Lotion: posts the ante 25
The House: posts small blind 150
dazza0009: posts big blind 300
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Neeko [ ]
Fatste: folds
Stokkis: folds
1986: folds
psorange: folds
Neeko: raises to 600
SHAABOOM: folds
Rebecca05: folds
Lotion: calls 600
The House: calls 450
dazza0009: folds
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
The House: checks
Neeko: bets 900
Lotion: folds
The House: calls 900
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
The House: checks
Neeko: bets 2000
The House: calls 2000
----- RIVER ----- [ ][Ah]
The House: bets 7500


Call all in or not?

£10k crypto comp

495 entry's 85 left - he is 3rd in chips

I've caught hiim on a bluff before but the call would be all in.

[dan]

i would of probably played the hand more agressivley on the flop and probably pushed on the turn if he was still in the hand. its hard to call for all your chips now he could of made 2 pairs with the ace. A4 A5. i dont think he has A10 otherwise he might of pushed on the flop or at least reraised you to protect his hand.

[thetank]

I pass, I don't like to put my tournament life on the line with a marginal hand on a hunch that he might be bluffing. 2-1 odds are not tempting enough to get me to play.

He could have a busted flush draw, but it might have been the busted nut flush draw. He could have a whole host of other things that might beat 'cha.

Before I'd pass I might make a random guess at his hand in the chat box. Something like, "you've got   ". This might goad him into showing his cards to "prove me wrong" giving up some juicy free information in the process.

[Royal Flush]

67 is my guess

[NoflopsHomer]

hhmmmm. Does he have  ?

Or could he have a set and hope you had an ace.

I think you should have bet bigger on the flop and then pushed on the turn, if you're prepared to payoff the set....

[neeko]

Very interesting responses - clearly i play the game far too weak.

----- RIVER ----- [ ][Ah]
The House: bets 7500
Neeko: is all-in 7335
Returned uncalled bets 165 to The House
----- SHOW DOWN -----
The House: shows [ ] (A Pair of Sixes, Ace high)
Neeko: shows [ ] (A Pair of Tens, Ace high)
Neeko collects 22820 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 22820 Main pot 22820 Rake 0
Board [ Ah]
Seat 1: The House (small blind) lost
Seat 2: dazza0009 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Fatste folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Stokkis folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: 1986 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: psorange folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Neeko showed [ ] and won (22820) with A Pair of Tens, Ace high
Seat 8: SHAABOOM folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Rebecca05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Lotion (button) folded on the Flop

I called - mainly because i was probably tilting from a previous bluff he had got past me and i want to show him that i was prepared to call him.

Still on his table - he did get back to chip leader. 

I want his chips.

[neeko]

OK

1. Dont tilt
2. Dont target the chip leader
3. Sometimes even those at-it have hands

Game #1234062834: Hold'em NL (400/800) - 2005/12/31 - 00:16:00 (UK)
Table "£10K FRIDAY 1600366 - 3" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: The House (23035 in chips)
Seat 2: Duke1977 (6242.50 in chips)
Seat 3: Fatste (25886.50 in chips)
Seat 5: woosey100 (13010 in chips)
Seat 6: psorange (9326.50 in chips)
Seat 7: Neeko (18150 in chips)
Seat 8: Demerald (4640 in chips)
Seat 9: Rebecca05 (13925 in chips)
Seat 10: Lotion (11906.50 in chips)
The House: posts the ante 100
Duke1977: posts the ante 100
Fatste: posts the ante 100
woosey100: posts the ante 100
psorange: posts the ante 100
Neeko: posts the ante 100
Demerald: posts the ante 100
Rebecca05: posts the ante 100
Lotion: posts the ante 100
The House: posts small blind 400
Duke1977: posts big blind 800
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Neeko [ ]
Fatste: folds
woosey100: folds
psorange: folds
Neeko: raises to 2400
T.D.C sits back
Demerald: folds
Demerald sits out
Demerald sits back
Rebecca05: folds
Lotion: folds
The House: raises to 22935 and is all-in
Demerald sits back
Duke1977: folds
Neeko: is all-in 15650
Returned uncalled bets 4,885 to The House
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
----- RIVER ----- [ ][]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
The House: shows [ ] (A Full House, Nines full of Kings)
Neeko: shows [ ] (Three of a kind, Nines, King high)
The House collects 37800 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot 37800 Main pot 37800 Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: The House (small blind) showed [ ] and won (37800) with A Full House, Nines full of Kings
Seat 2: Duke1977 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Fatste folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: woosey100 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: psorange folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: Neeko lost
Seat 8: Demerald folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 9: Rebecca05 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 10: Lotion (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

[Royal Flush]

I can understand the JT call, but calling 16k all in with KTo pre flop!! you are behind to A2!!

[thetank]

He know's it's tilt. You've just got to figure out how to eliminate it from your game.

A little tilt is not ok, it will eat most of your profits in the long term.
Any more than a little tilt will make you a losing player. It must be beat, your biggest opponent at the table is yourself. This is true for all of us.

[snoopy1239]

------HAND 5------
Game #1233473264: Hold'em NL (150/300) - 2005/12/30 - 23:36:01 (UK)
Table "£10K FRIDAY 1600366 - 3" Seat 10 is the button.
Seat 1: The House (23087.50 in chips)
Seat 2: dazza0009 (10394 in chips)
Seat 3: Fatste (7190 in chips)
Seat 4: Stokkis (4217.50 in chips)
Seat 5: 1986 (3704.50 in chips)
Seat 6: psorange (10247 in chips)
Seat 7: Neeko (10860 in chips)
Seat 8: SHAABOOM (3030 in chips)
Seat 9: Rebecca05 (5575 in chips)
Seat 10: Lotion (8625 in chips)
The House: posts the ante 25
dazza0009: posts the ante 25
Fatste: posts the ante 25
Stokkis: posts the ante 25
1986: posts the ante 25
psorange: posts the ante 25
Neeko: posts the ante 25
SHAABOOM: posts the ante 25
Rebecca05: posts the ante 25
Lotion: posts the ante 25
The House: posts small blind 150
dazza0009: posts big blind 300
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Neeko [ ]
Fatste: folds
Stokkis: folds
1986: folds
psorange: folds
Neeko: raises to 600
SHAABOOM: folds
Rebecca05: folds
Lotion: calls 600
The House: calls 450
dazza0009: folds
----- FLOP ----- [ ]
The House: checks
Neeko: bets 900
Lotion: folds
The House: calls 900
----- TURN ----- [ ][]
The House: checks
Neeko: bets 2000
The House: calls 2000
----- RIVER ----- [ ][Ah]
The House: bets 7500


Call all in or not?

£10k crypto comp

495 entry's 85 left - he is 3rd in chips

I've caught hiim on a bluff before but the call would be all in.

You'll still have 7k if you fold. I think he's got you beat here and is moving all-in to make it look like a bluff.

He must realise you have something after you bet every street, and surely he would also see the potential danger in the ace on the river.

I reckon he could have something like  ,  . I can even smell a set here.

Just looks too suspicious for my liking.