Top Pair into a bluff? 200NLHU

[DMorgan]

FPS ITT

click the call button, next hand plz

[pleno1]

FPS ITT

click the call button, next hand plz

norrrr, cawl really?

[GreekStein]

My thought was call but I'm not a heads up player and never really have been.

[Dubai]

Well when he folds you are winning. People who have played 50-100 and have lost 123k aint bet folding better lol- obviously just call

As an aside KT and J9 are basically the same but shoving KT is infinitely better than shoving J9

[pleno1]

Why do people think he won't b/f 2 pair, AA, AK, KQ

He plays lottttts of midstakes NL now I guess rebuilding his roll.

Instead of using that as an argument how about saying c/r this river in vacuum against standard reg.

Was wanting feedbck on the concept/play rather than "he's played 10knl so can't fold"

[Rupert]

standard reg prob doesn't value bet thinly enough for bluff to be profitable

[pleno1]

also because hes played higher he probably see's this as being "small stakes" and wont expect a decent reg to be c/jamming the river here as he probably thinks the regs at this limit are terrible, so def two sides to that argument.

he prob thought he had been running me over and thought I was playing weak so probably even more so wouldnt expect me to bluff with Kx or Jx here and there are no other hands I can have except flushes.

[pleno1]

Also, I'm really sorry if I'm coming across as a dick in these threads. Def not "arguing"

I feel like I'm really improving as a player and just trying to give my thought process off as clear as possible. Thanks everyone for contributing, I really appreciate it.

[Rupert]

Yeah def two sides to argument but you don't really have any info to distinguish which type of mentality he has.  If anything he's more likely to be call happy since he's down a chunk on PTR so more likely to be a bit of a spin up artist type guy.

+1 to what u said as well i guess

[cambridgealex]

Yeah def two sides to argument but you don't really have any info to distinguish which type of mentality he has.  If anything he's more likely to be call happy since he's down a chunk on PTR so more likely to be a bit of a spin up artist type guy.

+1 to what u said as well i guess

i think this is an important point, we have no info rele as to what kind of mentality he has. with a play as complicated/sophisticated as this, we should have some kind of indicaton. I think Dan is right that it is FPS. Although the concept of turning your hand into a bluff in this spot is great, and vs the right player would be very profitable. We just don't know enough about him yet.

Learn more about how wide he vbets n these spots, how he responds to river c/shoves, what has he seen you do it with before etc, how he has seen you play FDs oop etc, then you can establish whether or not this is a good idea.

[DMorgan]

Don't get me wrong I think its a decent spot to turn your hand into a bluff against a good, thinking reg that isn't just gunna click call because he has 2 pair which I think that this guy most likely will just from the stats that we have.

He's going to be aware that he's been playing very very aggro and you're gunna snap and bluff eventually. I can very feasibly see the guy talking himself into a call with anything he's value betting the river with.

[pleno1]

Full Tilt Poker Game #28994030979: Table Bohm (heads up, deep) - $1/$2 - No Limit Hold'em - 15:58:51 ET - 2011/03/13
Seat 1: pads1161 ($200)
Seat 2: niggepuk ($386.50)
niggepuk posts the small blind of $1
pads1161 posts the big blind of $2
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [td ]
niggepuk raises to $4
pads1161 calls $2
*** FLOP *** [ ]
pads1161 checks
niggepuk bets $6
pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act
pads1161 calls $6
*** TURN *** [ ] []
pads1161 checks
niggepuk bets $16
pads1161 calls $16
*** RIVER *** [ ] [As]
pads1161 checks
niggepuk bets $42
pads1161 has 15 seconds left to act
pads1161 raises to $174, and is all in
niggepuk has 15 seconds left to act
niggepuk has requested TIME
niggepuk folds
Uncalled bet of $132 returned to pads1161
pads1161 mucks
pads1161 wins the pot ($135.50)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $136 | Rake $0.50
Board: [ As]
Seat 1: pads1161 (big blind) collected ($135.50), mucked
Seat 2: niggepuk (small blind) folded on the River

similarrrr

[Rupert]

this is just spew

[TheFallen]

this is just spew

yer agreed. especially as top pair is such a small part of his range on the river.

[mondatoo]

MBN to never lose a hand, incred life.