Even The Best in the Business(tm) have bad days

[TightEnd]

for the nth time - i couldnt care less about the banning, if he was warned several times then so be it, but there does seem to be a "make it up as we go along" line in here

there isn't. The guidelines have been in place for several years. Posted as a tab on the forum header boxes too.

[kinboshi]

Tighty has made his point. Sure Pleno was given fair warning that this might happen

You would have thought that most would assume the same.  Seems some assume that the mods try to be as unreasonable as possible and enjoy suspending members and the inevitable fall out on threads like this.

[GreekStein]

I think ur unreasonable sometimes dan. I don't often think tighty is at all.

[outragous76]

would you like me to remove my sig tighty?

Preferably.

We did post up Karl's press release announcing your good news as it was "newsworthy" given your presence on here and the many friendships you have on here, only right that people should know and be able to share in your news. You also don't seek to take advantage by promoting Encore on the forum. Of course you would be expected to respond to private queries, 

define that please

I am not sure what needs defining?

Cos doesn't post a lot saying "Encore are great, PM me for a good deal etc"

He knows the score, he doesn't try to take advantage

The problem with a grey area like this is that it can be suggested rules are enforced more vigorously for different people. I am not suggesting that is the case btw, but can see why it would be suggested. If the sig of a popular member promoting another site appears mutiple times each day then that is constant endorsement. So the statement that such a member doesn't post a lot saying site x is great is like saying Sebastian Vettel doesn't talk about Red Bull a lot when he's driving around Imola. I can see how the modding task is a rather difficult one here.

I agree. I have tried to explain why we are where we are

Third party sites should not be promoted in sig lines.

I have also explained why sometimes the rules are not enforced.

[   ] there isnt

[Acidmouse]

[X] seems petty banning anyone given freedom of speech

lol just lol.

[smashedagain]

who are the mods on here. in my day they rode round on lambrettas. seems to me the only thing they are riding these days are high horses

[TightEnd]

who are the mods on here. in my day they rode round on lambrettas. seems to me the only thing they are riding these days are high horses

Jason there is absolutely no need for that.

Mods are taking the time to explain and you want to have a dig?

I expected better of you.

[smashedagain]

sorry tight just showed my support for you in previuos post then go and post that....forgot to put a smiley face to show i was only joking. everyone is getting serious while i am having a laugh. any chance of listing things you can get banned for so i can pick a couple out

[Boba Fett]

Dunno if anyone caught the webcast by PLeno aka The Best in the Business(tm) but here is a transcript sponsored by Boba Fett Poker: pm for rb deals*

*Just kidding, obv doesnt exist.  Dont pm me

In all seriousness, he asked me to post the following, right of reply etc

""Sigh, its a shame that I have had to install a VPN just so I can view Blonde.  A forum that I view for hours everyday and that I try to add input too in every area possible. Of course I am not trying to benefit from my own commercial gains or whatever bullshit you wrote. I get X% deal, I give the whole X% to the player and keep 0% for myself, I do it for friends and people that I want to do well..

I have no idea who has sent this email saying that I have been pestering them or whater, if it was Red Dog, then it is absilutely ridiculous, of course I'm not trying to shift a live player who plays 1 table online a rakeback deal to benefit myself. As for anybody else? It just really doens't make sense, I genuinely dont think I have offered anybody else a deal and if I have it would have been to give them 100% of my cut so that they could benefit and ive seen them posting around the forum requesting such deals. Why the hell would they "rat on me" just confuses me.

The messages I sent to redarmi/dubai were nothing to do with rakeback (like redarmi confirmed in the thread) everybody knows the mods have it in for me, I was a ***** for 2 weeks along acting similarily to Caroline, I got banned and she did updates for the forum. Brilliant democracy. I don't even want to come back to your forum. I have tried helping lots of people, I have done updates for you for very little money (that people said I did well at) I have brought traffic to your forum and I make post after post on PHA, I am a super moderator on another forum and i post dozens of posts a day helping people out. I am appreciat ed there and if I WAS HALF AS APPRECIATED here then I could really be a positive member for you. You can stick your conspiracy/cliquey forum up your arse and I gaurantee I'll not come running back to reinstate my membership.

1 month ban? Absolutely fucking ridiculous.

Also, whenever anybody posts about rakeback etc, we get 3/4/5 people posting reguarly in the threads/PM'n the people and offering/giving them deals. People openly talk about it too, I very very much doubt that they ever get reprimanded/warned/1 month banned. "

[TightEnd]

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=25383.0

[smashedagain]

I'm not trying to shift a live player who plays 1 table online a rakeback deal to benefit myself
tom is upto 4 now tho

[GreekStein]

Tighty can you just clear up exactly why Pleno was banned?

[cambridgealex]

I don't know whether we get any say in any of this, but I vote his ban gets removed. It would be a big loss to the forum if he didn't come back.

[Boba Fett]

On a sidenote about member bans.  I saw it work quite well on another forum where they had a sub-forum specifically for banned members where a thread was started by a mod saying who was banned and why and the banned member, and other people, could make a case for the defense.  Obviously it would also need rules, an amount of time for a thread to be posted on, what can and cant be posted in these threads, setting up the access rights correctly etc.

It didnt get too out of hand as anything that wasnt directly related to the discussion was insta deleted and if it got out of hand then the thread locked.  It would improve communication between mods and members on who is banned and why, stopping all the "why is this person banned" threads and posts, give the banned member right of reply instead of them posting through other people, which has happened in several cases.

[outragous76]

Also, whenever anybody posts about rakeback etc, we get 3/4/5 people posting reguarly in the threads/PM'n the people and offering/giving them deals. People openly talk about it too, I very very much doubt that they ever get reprimanded/warned/1 month banned. "

not sure that can be denied and seems like the most relevant of his points. Also super lol if the fact he doesnt benefit is true!

I agree with Alex - as much as we had our differences P Leno was a good solid poster around blonde, clealry loves poker, and on the whole seemed like he wanted to help members. Ban seems top heavy to me