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« on: January 02, 2006, 10:50:08 AM »

$500k on Pokerstars, down to last 95

Av chips is around 90k

Blinds about to go up to 6000 12000


PokerStars Game #3503811224: Tournament #16654284, Hold'em No Limit - Level XVII (4000/8000) - 2006/01/01 - 21:09:47 (ET) Table '16654284 149' Seat #4 is the button Seat 1: Blue Maniac (53558 in chips)
Seat 2: AttackDog (87975 in chips)
Seat 3: RJGTJV (98808 in chips)
Seat 4: sputnik1 (47294 in chips)
Seat 5: M3boy (76970 in chips)
Seat 6: Zippiebear (101614 in chips)
Seat 7: westmenloAA (122294 in chips)
Seat 8: Mulligan17 (125848 in chips)
Seat 9: stallionh (73889 in chips)
Blue Maniac: posts the ante 400
AttackDog: posts the ante 400
RJGTJV: posts the ante 400
sputnik1: posts the ante 400
M3boy: posts the ante 400
Zippiebear: posts the ante 400
westmenloAA: posts the ante 400
Mulligan17: posts the ante 400
stallionh: posts the ante 400
M3boy: posts small blind 4000
Zippiebear: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to M3boy [ ]
westmenloAA: folds
Mulligan17: folds
stallionh: raises 65489 to 73489 and is all-in
Blue Maniac: folds
AttackDog: folds
RJGTJV: folds
sputnik1: folds
M3boy: calls 69489
Zippiebear: folds
*** FLOP *** [ Ah]
*** TURN *** [ Ah] []
*** RIVER *** [ Ah ] [Two Clubs]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
M3boy: shows [ ] (a pair of Tens)
stallionh: shows [As ] (a pair of Aces)
stallionh collected 158578 from pot
M3boy said, "nh"
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 158578 | Rake 0
Board [ Ah Two Clubs]
Seat 1: Blue Maniac folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: AttackDog folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: RJGTJV folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: sputnik1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: M3boy (small blind) showed [ ] and lost with a pair of Tens Seat 6: Zippiebear (big blind) folded before Flop Seat 7: westmenloAA folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: Mulligan17 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: stallionh showed [As ] and won (158578) with a pair of Aces
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« Reply #1 on: January 02, 2006, 10:57:04 AM »

I must add that the guy came to the table with 35k and was all in quite alot. Two hands were seen , they were K J o/s and pok 5's
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« Reply #2 on: January 02, 2006, 11:03:35 AM »

Paul,
I folded 10 10 in a similar situation in the Crypto 35k last night,  having said that the blinds were not such a problem, I dont like putting my tourney life on the line with 10 10 ot J J, I would much rather see a flop with this type of hand.
Can understand why you did though you were under 10 x bb and had to make a move, and you did go in in with the best of it and on another day it might have stood up

Just unlucky
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« Reply #3 on: January 02, 2006, 11:35:13 AM »

Looking at the stacks too my left and this guys position i fold.

Stealing blinds of the 120k stacks shouldnt be a problem, they are not too short that they have to call. So you can make up for this hand later.

You cant really expect to be ahead of anything here.
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« Reply #4 on: January 02, 2006, 11:40:41 AM »

James.

I am ahead of all hands except for JJ QQ KK and AA. With the blinds about to rise again, and the money not really that good till last 20, I will take ANY edge in a pot.

I think its one of those decisions that can only be made by the player at the table at that time, and for me I still think it was the correct move.

But ty for your opinion.

Another situation which you would of passed i think is this :

Just into the money 360 odd left and I had approx 35k. I had been hitting this one persons blind for well over an hour. I had AJ o/s and again made a standard raise on his BB. He instantly went all in for 27k.
My feeling was that he just got sick of me raising his BB and didnt have any hand whatsoever. So I called. Sure enough he had 7 2.
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« Reply #5 on: January 02, 2006, 12:55:21 PM »

I make the call, like you say, a long way to go till the real money, you'll need the chips.
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« Reply #6 on: January 02, 2006, 12:58:19 PM »

why cant he have JJ?

I am thinking JJ AK AQ.

I would rather take my chances on nicking the blinds, but thats just the kinda player i am, i like deciding me own fate not letting someone else do it!
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« Reply #7 on: January 02, 2006, 01:01:07 PM »

why cant he have JJ?

I am thinking JJ AK AQ.

I would rather take my chances on nicking the blinds, but thats just the kinda player i am, i like deciding me own fate not letting someone else do it!

  something to think about, I think DC has the same take on this, I like the "own fate" part of it, makes sense
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« Reply #8 on: January 02, 2006, 01:06:43 PM »

With less than 10BB and 90 odd folk to go through your fate was decided when you were dealt the 10's, when you get the cards, you gotta play em.
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« Reply #9 on: January 02, 2006, 01:12:12 PM »

Why cant i pretend i never got TT and move all in the next hand with 89s?
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« Reply #10 on: January 02, 2006, 01:58:15 PM »

I think I can pass here you have enough bluffing equity to make blinds fold. You do have to win 50/50 shots but I would rather be 1st ionto a pot than calling an all in.
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« Reply #11 on: January 02, 2006, 02:00:51 PM »

Each to their own..................

I dont think it is Right or Wrong to call when I did. It was just "right at the time" for me.
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« Reply #12 on: January 02, 2006, 02:05:10 PM »

Yeah its a marginal situation , if it is folded to me here I am all in everytime . You made the call and you were ahead so fair play , with these decisions you really need to be there as the feel/read of the table and the player can mean so much.
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« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2006, 03:03:54 PM »

exactly Jezza

From the hands that we saw of his "all in" method of poker, a King high and a pair 5's suggested to me that he was going to double up or go out - doesnt give you much reason to think he had a monster.

James,, you say you wouldnt call because he could have AA KK QQ JJ, thats good to know - EVERY time i play you I am all in on ur big blind. Of course you will fold because i "could" have Aces ?!?!?

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« Reply #14 on: January 02, 2006, 03:07:06 PM »

James,, you say you wouldnt call because he could have AA KK QQ JJ, thats good to know - EVERY time i play you I am all in on ur big blind. Of course you will fold because i "could" have Aces ?!?!?

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