Big Boxing Thread

[smashedagain]

Wtf. I just don't get that at all. Controlling the fight then bang one punch and his plan goes out the window.  Is he that stupid that he wants to throw away all the skills he has as a boxer and brawl or is his chin that soft that his brain gets mangled the moment he gets tagged.

I can't even see  where his excuses are gonna come from in this fight as he always has them.

[millidonk]

Kahn has always had a suspect chin.

[Bazzaboy]

Wtf. I just don't get that at all. Controlling the fight then bang one punch and his plan goes out the window.  Is he that stupid that he wants to throw away all the skills he has as a boxer and brawl or is his chin that soft that his brain gets mangled the moment he gets tagged.

I can't even see  where his excuses are gonna come from in this fight as he always has them.

He has always been chinny. He also has ideas way above his station and came a cropper for the second fight in a row. I'm guessing he won't embarrass himself further by talking about a fight with Mayweather ever again. Going the distance with Maidana was the worst thing to happen to Khan as he started to believe he could stand and trade with opponents but he can't. He should have kept the fight at range with a tight defence much like he did against Kotelnik. Had he done that he would have cruised to a wide UD.

[MANTIS01]

Khan looked a class above until he got caught. Not only suspect chin but struggles to recover from damage and has spaghetti legs when shots land. Not sure about the stoppage and this ref always tilts me but clear Khan is lacking a vital ingredient. 

[Bazzaboy]

Khan looked a class above until he got caught. Not only suspect chin but struggles to recover from damage and has spaghetti legs when shots land. Not sure about the stoppage and this ref always tilts me but clear Khan is lacking a vital ingredient. 

Should have been stopped at the end of the 3rd.  If you are wanting to convince a ref you are fit to continue you stand with your gloves up and look at him. Not stand looking at the canvas with your arms by your sides.

[Karabiner]

Kahn has always had a suspect chin.

It looks as though he also has a suspect neck.

[kinboshi]

Khan could learn a lot from Johnny Nelson. When he started at the Ingle gym he was a terrible boxer by all accounts. He was moulded into a great boxer and managed to win fight after fight without getting hit. Yes, they were pretty boring at times - but I'm sure that Khan wouldn't have minded winning against Garcia in a boring 12-rounder.

Khan isn't a great fighter, he's a great boxer. Against world-class opposition he's no more than an average fighter.

He's got to decide if he wants to be in toe-to-toe brawls, which he'll win some and lose some; or he can choose to box and use his talents and probably win most of his fights, even at world class level.

Unfortunately, I don't think he's ever going to learn though.

[millidonk]

He's got to decide if he wants to be in toe-to-toe brawls, which he'll win some and lose some; or he can choose to box and use his talents and probably win most of his fights, even at world class level.
 

Agree with this, technically he is a great boxer, but he is not a great fighter!

[MANTIS01]

Khan looked a class above until he got caught. Not only suspect chin but struggles to recover from damage and has spaghetti legs when shots land. Not sure about the stoppage and this ref always tilts me but clear Khan is lacking a vital ingredient. 

Should have been stopped at the end of the 3rd.  If you are wanting to convince a ref you are fit to continue you stand with your gloves up and look at him. Not stand looking at the canvas with your arms by your sides.

Agree fight should be over at the end of the 3rd, but Bayless gives Khan 20 secs recovery after hitting the canvas when Garcia was ready to finish him off. In that knockdown and the next one Khan's arms were right down by his sides but it was deemd ok to box on. In the last one Khan is looking the ref straight in the eye saying I am alright as he calls it off. Nigel Benn would have lost half the fights he won with Bayless in charge. He dives in to break fighters too much as well.

@Kin, I don't reckon Khan has all the ingredients to be called a great boxer. The first rule of boxing is defend yourself at all times and if you can't absorb single half decent shots you wont be able to do that. He's got some great attributes but lacks some essential skills. It's like saying Theo Walcott is a great footballer. I agree Khan should avoid brawling but he will still get punched in title fights. Must be very frustrating for Roach and Khan.

[kinboshi]

Khan can take shots when he doesn't stand toe-to-toe.  The shots he gets hurt by are shots that really shouldn't land at all. A decent guard or proper use of his feet and he doesn't get hit.  Before he was trained by Roach he was often getting tagged by these shots, but more often than not it was at a lower level by fighters not known for being bangers.  I'd hoped that Roach was helping him step up a level so he would be fighting smarter. Unfortunately, that's not happened.

Like I said, folly Johnny Nelson's example and go out with the game-plan of not getting hit and hitting the other fella enough to win on points (and if you're lucky enough to land some good shots on him, you might even get a stoppage win).

[MintTrav]

Where to now for Khan (and indeed Garcia)? Hang around 140, where there aren't really many big fights left for either of them or go to 147, where they can improve their exposure, marketability and earning power against some names? Both are likely to struggle badly, though, and get duffed up at that weight, and I don't mean just by those at the very top - there are quite a few decent boxers at that weight who would be likely to take either of them apart.

Best strategy to try to leapfrog the rest for a big payoff against Mayweather or Pacquiao, with always the chance of getting lucky? Presumably the winner of Guerrero-Aydin will have first shot at that.

[FUN4FRASER]

If Garcia gave a re match Id like to be on Khan at a fancy price

[Tal]

Won't be a rematch. Khan will move up to 147 now.

[redarmi]

If Garcia gave a re match Id like to be on Khan at a fancy price

You wouldn't get any bigger than 6/4 and realistically probably evens.

[Horneris]

Khan would be jolly olly