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« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2011, 11:33:31 AM » |
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I don't see any reason why you should stop him.
Maybe because he has some morals? |
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« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2011, 11:34:26 AM » |
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Fuck him. It's his own fault
And I'm usually pretty fair about this sort of stuff
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« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2011, 11:36:22 AM » |
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nothing wrong.
did you check the river for showdown value?
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« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2011, 11:51:21 AM » |
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two reasons for not betting river:
Guy was a station
I had my usual nitty image in play and had tried value betting queen high against him earlier
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« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2011, 11:59:27 AM » |
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Dealer and player need a slap. you have done nothing wrong.
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« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2011, 12:02:28 PM » |
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Dealer and player need a slap. you have done nothing wrong.
lol. you essex boys |
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« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2011, 12:06:57 PM » |
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If the dude is a nice guy it's ghey. If you wanted to take the pot down you could have risked some chips to do it. Trying to win it after by asking the dealer to gather the cards is plain angle shooting isn't it? I mean some cocky feckers have got that sort of thing coming so I would be ok with it. But generally I don't think it's a good way to conduct yourself in a tournament against regular people. If you think you're a favourite to win the table the antics aren't necessary and only serve to spoil the mood. A mega hard ass attitude over a small pot in the early levels seems overly anxious to me.
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« Reply #22 on: July 09, 2011, 12:08:59 PM » |
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If the dude is a nice guy it's ghey. If you wanted to take the pot down you could have risked some chips to do it. Trying to win it after by asking the dealer to gather the cards is plain angle shooting isn't it? I mean some cocky feckers have got that sort of thing coming so I would be ok with it. But generally I don't think it's a good way to conduct yourself in a tournament against regular people. If you think you're a favourite to win the table the antics aren't necessary and only serve to spoil the mood. A mega hard ass attitude over a small pot in the early levels seems overly anxious to me.
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« Reply #23 on: July 09, 2011, 12:13:52 PM » |
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If the dude is a nice guy it's ghey. If you wanted to take the pot down you could have risked some chips to do it. Trying to win it after by asking the dealer to gather the cards is plain angle shooting isn't it? I mean some cocky feckers have got that sort of thing coming so I would be ok with it. But generally I don't think it's a good way to conduct yourself in a tournament against regular people. If you think you're a favourite to win the table the antics aren't necessary and only serve to spoil the mood. A mega hard ass attitude over a small pot in the early levels seems overly anxious to me.
i agree with this but in a more friendly tone. Me too. It's not really very far removed from what that German guy did to Roland in the EPT. |
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« Reply #24 on: July 09, 2011, 12:15:11 PM » |
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A tabled hand always speaks, a mucked hand is dead.
The dealer should be enforcing the showdown rules, and the player shouldn't be so retarded as to muck a hand stronger than the board when their opponent is announcing they play the board.
People have different morals and ethics and opinions, that is why there are rules governing all parts of poker, follow the rules of the house not your beliefs.
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« Reply #25 on: July 09, 2011, 12:19:11 PM » |
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A tabled hand always speaks, a mucked hand is dead.
The dealer should be enforcing the showdown rules, and the player shouldn't be so retarded as to muck a hand stronger than the board when their opponent is announcing they play the board.
People have different morals and ethics and opinions, that is why there are rules governing all parts of poker, follow the rules of the house not your beliefs.
you are right andy but do you not feel that in this situation there is more to be gained from letting the player have or split the pot than saying muck them cards dealer and send that pot my way. |
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« Reply #26 on: July 09, 2011, 12:20:43 PM » |
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If the dude is a nice guy it's ghey. If you wanted to take the pot down you could have risked some chips to do it. Trying to win it after by asking the dealer to gather the cards is plain angle shooting isn't it? I mean some cocky feckers have got that sort of thing coming so I would be ok with it. But generally I don't think it's a good way to conduct yourself in a tournament against regular people. If you think you're a favourite to win the table the antics aren't necessary and only serve to spoil the mood. A mega hard ass attitude over a small pot in the early levels seems overly anxious to me.
i agree with this but in a more friendly tone. Me too. It's not really very far removed from what that German guy did to Roland in the EPT. Yeah Roland grabbing at cards all wide-eyed and awkward it looked so desperado. No need to be so serious and anxious about the literal interpretation of rules when playing a game. Sorry about my tone. |
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« Reply #27 on: July 09, 2011, 12:24:03 PM » |
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I couldn't care less. follow the rules
if we go to showdown and you misread your hand and don't table it but then afterwards realise that you had the same hand as I tabled, what happens?
you feel like a twat is the answer, you can't be awarded chips retrospectively or anything else, if you wanna talk about karma and rubbish like that then you can settle up from your pocket when playing cash otherwise learn to read your hand/always just turn it over so your cards speak.
using any reasoning like morals or karma in a situation where people are wagering money and with tonnes of specific rules is totally pointless.
If a player goes to muck and pushes their cards face down towards the muck the dealer should muck them
if it was on bedi or anyone else to show first the dealer should have been enforcing it.
It's also nothing like the Roland hand as the guy didn't say anything and it was on Roland to show.
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2011, 12:30:20 PM » |
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Just to be clear, this wasn't a planned angle like the German claimed against de Wolfe. I was shocked that he was mucking when I told him I was playing the board. It was only afterward I felt that morally it could be wrong
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2011, 12:34:27 PM » |
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the roland hand is pretty comical. put it up on here if you can. meh andy, you make it sound too black and white but none the less think you are right. being to soft is my weakness.
you think its wrong because you are a good guy george. no one suggests you angled or attempted to. its an ethical issue not a clear cut rule.
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