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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2011, 07:24:23 PM »

I think dan's post is spot on. Pretty much always raising this flop vs mitch because he won't fold j3o and we can complain when he jams a brick turn and rivers a chop.

Correct me if I'm wrong but you rarely play live cash do you jamie? I was just wondering why there's so much emphasis on balance when you're not likely to play mitch more than a coupla times a year or am I way off and you now grind teh live cash too?
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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2011, 08:07:29 PM »

dan morgan and whollyflush's posts i agree with 100%. Not raising flop when you have a history of raising his cbets is mad, when we want to get in nearly 150 bigs.
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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2011, 10:34:35 PM »

MITCH IS A FKIN MONG JUST RAISE THE FLOP
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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2011, 10:55:27 PM »

MITCH IS A FKIN MONG JUST RAISE THE FLOP

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« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2011, 01:48:47 AM »

MITCH IS A FKIN MONG JUST RAISE THE FLOP


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« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2011, 08:43:43 AM »

I think I love Mitch
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« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2011, 10:25:18 AM »

Quite a lot of leveling going off for most of the night with Me, Jamie n Dave sat in a line in a short handed nitfest.

I was OOOP and just sat there like a nit letting mitch bash me up
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« Reply #37 on: August 13, 2011, 01:58:50 PM »


I think Ged really hit the proverbial nail on its head...

I have played against Mitch quite a bit, often paying for the priviledge! I think he has an 8x hand here mostly and whilst he above any other player playing £1/2 or £2/£5 at DTD is capable of being creative in this sort of spot, I don't think it would be often enough to make a call profitable, even with the price offered. I would fold, but then I fold a lot  Smiley

I would have to caveat this opinion with not fully being able to appreciate the table dynamic at the time as well.
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« Reply #38 on: August 13, 2011, 04:36:12 PM »

Ok, suppose i can offer what i was thikning during the hand, although im pretty sure its just a clear attempt from jamie to get me to tell him my hand lol.

History with Jamie in previous sessions is pretty minimal, think we have played together once before, but in this session hes been 3 betting me a decent amount, usually quite big when ive been isolating the limpers. Each time ive just passed, but never had better than QTo.

He's deffinatley been bemoaning his luck abit and is down in the game, considering quitting etc.

Pre is pretty standard, we open with  and jamie calls in position.

Flop is good for my hand with it coming  and we c-bet.

When im flatted on the flop im pretty sure im good, expecting him to have some sort of pair and s-draw combo.

The 9 pairing on the turn, im expecting you to rep a large amount of the time when i check to you, and i know i can look full of shit if i c/r, but when you bet so small it just felt like you were really trying to induce coz id kind of gave up. If you bet bigger im almost deffo raising.

Decided that i could make some random raise on the river repping not a lot if i just check called now. Also, if my read is wrong and u have air i get another bet out of you, plus your gonna find it pretty hard not to v-bet any pairs if it bricks off etc.

So river pairs the 8, and i just dont see any value in betting as your 100% betting a 8 anyway, plus all your busted draws, counterfeted hands etc.

River is kind of interesting....What a lot of people were saying about the raise size, i dont think comes into effect too much. If i was c/r as a bluff, im trying to get you to fold anything but a house, which your gonna prob do for £100 more or £300 more. TBH i didnt consider a straight to be a very big part of your range til you started tanking the river,

The second reason i went small was because i was so sure you wouldnt expect me to have a 9, you may try and re-stab with your air, or even try and get me off a chop, as im aware you prob think i cant have better than a 8.

Think this hand would have been more interesting if it had been in a straddled pot as the stack:pot ratio would have been tighter, pot much bigger and may have induced you to turn your hand into a bluff on the river more often.

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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2011, 10:54:55 PM »

Yeah I completely agree with Dan and Alex's posts. I completely lost my brain and got so caught up with trying to play my hand strangely that I lost sight of what the most profitable play is (I do this occasionally vs friends).

(Playing MTTs hence the short reply.)

Thanks for all your responses, especially yours Mitch, appreciate you talking through the hand and revealing your hole cards.

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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2011, 10:59:52 PM »

The more I think about this hand, the more I come to the conclusion that I totally butchered it, will just have to learn from it. Thanks for the responses again everyone.
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2011, 12:25:15 AM »

Did Mitch utter "send me a seven!" on the turn?.
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2011, 12:38:46 AM »

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Thanks for all your responses, especially yours Mitch, appreciate you talking through the hand and revealing your hole cards.

Million that Mitch actually had a nine Tongue
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« Reply #43 on: August 14, 2011, 02:02:25 AM »

Thought your analysis of the hand was quality Dan. I finished my last message on here with AIR... but deleted it.
Mitch is gonna Mitch imo.   
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« Reply #44 on: August 14, 2011, 02:09:47 AM »

MITCH IS A FKIN MONG JUST RAISE THE FLOP

not only hilarious, but also solid advice.

hi mitch
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