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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2011, 12:19:22 PM »

Also, what would be the ethical position as to the original staker & stakee if such a deal were done? Say, for example, I sold half my 5%, could or would George have any reason to be miffed?


imo, you have paid for your 5% and it is completely your's to do with as you wish. Surely no stakee would be bothered either way?
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« Reply #31 on: August 24, 2011, 12:21:31 PM »

Is my 5% booked mate ?
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« Reply #32 on: August 24, 2011, 12:32:56 PM »

Is my 5% booked mate ?

Yes mate booked
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« Reply #33 on: August 24, 2011, 12:40:55 PM »

I'd like to ask a theoretical question, almost "ethics" really.

Theoretical, because at these numbers, the maths probably don't work very well, but....

Assume for the moment I have 5% of George, which I purchased at 1.2.

If he runs good on Day One, & makes Day Two with, say, 25% above average chips, what is the 1.2 now worth, if I could find a willing buyer? Same question with average chips, or with double average chips?

Is there already business done like this by anyone?

I'm not sure I'd ever sell any action I owned in a player if he looked like getting a big bink, but buyers would presumably be plentiful if the price were right?

Also, what would be the ethical position as to the original staker & stakee if such a deal were done? Say, for example, I sold half my 5%, could or would George have any reason to be miffed?

I'm a buyer not a seller, but I'm just curious, & I hope George does not mind me semi-hijacking his Thread. (If so, I'll split it off).

IMO it'd be fine. Just tell me who you're selling to at 1.5 so I can have a chat with them Cheesy
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« Reply #34 on: August 24, 2011, 12:41:58 PM »

OP amended with %'s sold so far
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« Reply #35 on: August 24, 2011, 12:42:12 PM »

If you put up a staking thread be prepared to be asked questions about the markup you charge, if you don't like this then don't start a thread, simples.

I personally feel the markup is too high, I had made a choice not to comment as i felt like George won't lower it even if i did but it is deffo my right to ask once he posts it on here.

i disagree, geroge came on, said what he thohght he was worth then gave sufficient back up including hendon mob etc.

If somebody said, hey i want backing for ept, im charging 1.2, then fair enough, but i think it was more than detailed enough and people posting "you're not worth it" or things similar can only have a negative impact and 99/100 they dont invest so if thye have a problem keep it off the thread.
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« Reply #36 on: August 24, 2011, 12:45:33 PM »

Does that go for everything?

Say for example someone comes on offering tickets to an advent but they are charging way over the correct price am i supposed to sit here and let my fellow forum users get done over or should i speak up as part of the community?
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« Reply #37 on: August 24, 2011, 12:46:08 PM »

I'd like to ask a theoretical question, almost "ethics" really.

Theoretical, because at these numbers, the maths probably don't work very well, but....

Assume for the moment I have 5% of George, which I purchased at 1.2.

If he runs good on Day One, & makes Day Two with, say, 25% above average chips, what is the 1.2 now worth, if I could find a willing buyer? Same question with average chips, or with double average chips?

Is there already business done like this by anyone?

I'm not sure I'd ever sell any action I owned in a player if he looked like getting a big bink, but buyers would presumably be plentiful if the price were right?

Also, what would be the ethical position as to the original staker & stakee if such a deal were done? Say, for example, I sold half my 5%, could or would George have any reason to be miffed?

I'm a buyer not a seller, but I'm just curious, & I hope George does not mind me semi-hijacking his Thread. (If so, I'll split it off).

IMO it'd be fine. Just tell me who you're selling to at 1.5 so I can have a chat with them Cheesy

Lol, rumbled! I SO wanna be able to sell it on to Matt Russell or Flushy @ 1.5.....
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« Reply #38 on: August 24, 2011, 12:47:12 PM »

Does that go for everything?

Say for example someone comes on offering tickets to an advent but they are charging way over the correct price am i supposed to sit here and let my fellow forum users get done over or should i speak up as part of the community?

Thiu, just so long as it's done constructively, & not rudely, imo.

Psst - wanna buy 5% @ 1.5?
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« Reply #39 on: August 24, 2011, 12:49:01 PM »

Does that go for everything?

Say for example someone comes on offering tickets to an advent but they are charging way over the correct price am i supposed to sit here and let my fellow forum users get done over or should i speak up as part of the community?

Ever bought a bottle in a Vegas nightclub? Cheesy
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« Reply #40 on: August 24, 2011, 12:52:30 PM »

Does that go for everything?

Say for example someone comes on offering tickets to an advent but they are charging way over the correct price am i supposed to sit here and let my fellow forum users get done over or should i speak up as part of the community?

Do you really think I'm doing people over at that price? I don't believe I'm ripping people off. I have offered part of the mark up back in some sort of form. It's not guaranteed but is something.
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« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2011, 12:57:33 PM »

I thought the price was fair given the freerolls your potentially handing out... Not to mention the amount of people that charge markup for the sake of it nowadays, i don't think 1.2 is unreasonable for you to ask
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« Reply #42 on: August 24, 2011, 01:13:44 PM »

Fwiw the freeroll meant nothing in my considering whether or not to buy.

Also I think 1.2 is pretty high. George maybe has an edge of 1.2 but by charging 1.2 he's keeping it all for himself.

However, I see this as a gamble with a potential big return from a player who is capable of winning big comps so I feel as though I have good value for my money.

If the prizes were different I wouldn't have even considered this but if I have the potential of increasing my £300 to £30k+ it's well worth a punt.

Good luck George!!
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« Reply #43 on: August 24, 2011, 01:14:23 PM »

If you put up a staking thread be prepared to be asked questions about the markup you charge, if you don't like this then don't start a thread, simples.

I personally feel the markup is too high, I had made a choice not to comment as i felt like George won't lower it even if i did but it is deffo my right to ask once he posts it on here.

Flushy- had you asked, I may have given you an answer as you're a potential investor.

I feel that others are asking for the sake of it even if they're not interested.

And you're right. The rate stays- shame I can't get any of your lucky $$$ at 1.2 but will solider on regardless Smiley

I thought I asked a fair and simple question before making a decision on investing, but it seems not. It would have been for a very small % anyway so no great loss for you George. GL with the staking and the tourney if you play.
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« Reply #44 on: August 24, 2011, 01:15:46 PM »

Does that go for everything?

Say for example someone comes on offering tickets to an advent but they are charging way over the correct price am i supposed to sit here and let my fellow forum users get done over or should i speak up as part of the community?

Do you really think I'm doing people over at that price? I don't believe I'm ripping people off. I have offered part of the mark up back in some sort of form. It's not guaranteed but is something.

I was using it as an example George that's all.

I genuinely believe that you are not going to show a return over 20% in this field, as such imo it's a bad 'investment' i though feel its a great punt and if i were the kind of person who played roulette, craps or backed Brent then i would get on board.
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