Transfer Deadline Day

[kinboshi]

I'm not saying they're not good signings, I'm saying that they're on a par with the signings we've made.

I'm saying the 'net' change through the transfer window is more positive for Liverpool than for Arsenal (imo).

[Karabiner]

Liverpool are bringing in players, Spurs are bringing players in AND keeping Modric (though he's a big like Cesc and will probably go next season), ManU spend a bit of dosh, Chelsea are moving on with some nice moves.....Arsenal couldn't even bring Cahill to the emirates FFS.

Really?  Who Spurs have brought in?  Parker?  Yeah he may stand out in a team that was relegated last season but his he ready for title challenges and Champions League, Chelsea didn't think so?  Adebayor?  He's on loan (ffs eh), but personally I think that's an excellent signing   Oh yeah they managed to turn down £40m for player that wants to leave and gave a shocking performance in a 1-5 loss last weekend.  And they couldn't bring Cahill either, perhaps Bolton are throwing spanners in the works rather than Arsenal not being able to sign him.    That was it for Spurs, I guess they couldn't do too much after we stopped being linked to players afterall

Liverpool have made a few signings but none of them could be considered amazingly better than our signings.  Signing Bellemy back is really moving forward eh?  Chelsea same again, very quiet from them I thought, can't see a massive improvement on their squad.  Man City, well when money is no object  you can't argue, but then they've signed some howlers in recent times.  Man U have made some great signings, I'll give you that.

If the people aren't available, you can't sign them.  Are you sure you're not just trolling with your anti-Arsenal hat on?  You should swap with Arsene, he's got a magic hat.

Liverpool have moved forward massively in terms of the squad this summer.  Bellamy IS an improvement on Ngog (despite being a bit of a ****, and is a squad player rather than a first XI signing). We needed someone who was willing to sit on the bench a great deal of the time, so that limits the players who'd be interested in such a role.

Downing, Henderson, Adam, Luis Enrique - all good additions to the side.  We've definitely had more 'good' come in than go out.  Mereiles is the biggest loss, but other than him I don't really see who we're going to miss. 

OUT:  Kyrgiakos, Jovanovic, Insua, El Zhar, Ayala, Cole, Ngog, Poulsen, Konchesky, Degen, Mereiles

IN:   Downing, Henderson, Adam, Luis Enrique, Coates, Bellamy

That's a successful transfer window imo.

One swallow doesn't make a summer, Blackpool were in a similar position after a few games last season.

LOL at all the scousers crowing after three games.

[TheChipPrince]

Your memory must be evading you because Arsenal played the best football in the league LAST year, beat MU, Chelsea and Liverpool at home and choked against minnows

Both Liverpool games finished 1-1 but point about choking against minnows is true

[kinboshi]

Liverpool are bringing in players, Spurs are bringing players in AND keeping Modric (though he's a big like Cesc and will probably go next season), ManU spend a bit of dosh, Chelsea are moving on with some nice moves.....Arsenal couldn't even bring Cahill to the emirates FFS.

Really?  Who Spurs have brought in?  Parker?  Yeah he may stand out in a team that was relegated last season but his he ready for title challenges and Champions League, Chelsea didn't think so?  Adebayor?  He's on loan (ffs eh), but personally I think that's an excellent signing   Oh yeah they managed to turn down £40m for player that wants to leave and gave a shocking performance in a 1-5 loss last weekend.  And they couldn't bring Cahill either, perhaps Bolton are throwing spanners in the works rather than Arsenal not being able to sign him.    That was it for Spurs, I guess they couldn't do too much after we stopped being linked to players afterall

Liverpool have made a few signings but none of them could be considered amazingly better than our signings.  Signing Bellemy back is really moving forward eh?  Chelsea same again, very quiet from them I thought, can't see a massive improvement on their squad.  Man City, well when money is no object  you can't argue, but then they've signed some howlers in recent times.  Man U have made some great signings, I'll give you that.

If the people aren't available, you can't sign them.  Are you sure you're not just trolling with your anti-Arsenal hat on?  You should swap with Arsene, he's got a magic hat.

Liverpool have moved forward massively in terms of the squad this summer.  Bellamy IS an improvement on Ngog (despite being a bit of a ****, and is a squad player rather than a first XI signing). We needed someone who was willing to sit on the bench a great deal of the time, so that limits the players who'd be interested in such a role.

Downing, Henderson, Adam, Luis Enrique - all good additions to the side.  We've definitely had more 'good' come in than go out.  Mereiles is the biggest loss, but other than him I don't really see who we're going to miss. 

OUT:  Kyrgiakos, Jovanovic, Insua, El Zhar, Ayala, Cole, Ngog, Poulsen, Konchesky, Degen, Mereiles

IN:   Downing, Henderson, Adam, Luis Enrique, Coates, Bellamy

That's a successful transfer window imo.

One swallow doesn't make a summer, Blackpool were in a similar position after a few games last season.

LOL at all the scousers crowing after three games.

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I wasn't talking about form or league position.  I was talking about the player changes during the summer transfer window, and if the overall net effect has been positive in terms of strengthening the squad or not.

[Karabiner]

Liverpool are bringing in players, Spurs are bringing players in AND keeping Modric (though he's a big like Cesc and will probably go next season), ManU spend a bit of dosh, Chelsea are moving on with some nice moves.....Arsenal couldn't even bring Cahill to the emirates FFS.

Really?  Who Spurs have brought in?  Parker?  Yeah he may stand out in a team that was relegated last season but his he ready for title challenges and Champions League, Chelsea didn't think so?  Adebayor?  He's on loan (ffs eh), but personally I think that's an excellent signing   Oh yeah they managed to turn down £40m for player that wants to leave and gave a shocking performance in a 1-5 loss last weekend.  And they couldn't bring Cahill either, perhaps Bolton are throwing spanners in the works rather than Arsenal not being able to sign him.    That was it for Spurs, I guess they couldn't do too much after we stopped being linked to players afterall

Liverpool have made a few signings but none of them could be considered amazingly better than our signings.  Signing Bellemy back is really moving forward eh?  Chelsea same again, very quiet from them I thought, can't see a massive improvement on their squad.  Man City, well when money is no object  you can't argue, but then they've signed some howlers in recent times.  Man U have made some great signings, I'll give you that.

If the people aren't available, you can't sign them.  Are you sure you're not just trolling with your anti-Arsenal hat on?  You should swap with Arsene, he's got a magic hat.

Liverpool have moved forward massively in terms of the squad this summer.  Bellamy IS an improvement on Ngog (despite being a bit of a ****, and is a squad player rather than a first XI signing). We needed someone who was willing to sit on the bench a great deal of the time, so that limits the players who'd be interested in such a role.

Downing, Henderson, Adam, Luis Enrique - all good additions to the side.  We've definitely had more 'good' come in than go out.  Mereiles is the biggest loss, but other than him I don't really see who we're going to miss. 

OUT:  Kyrgiakos, Jovanovic, Insua, El Zhar, Ayala, Cole, Ngog, Poulsen, Konchesky, Degen, Mereiles

IN:   Downing, Henderson, Adam, Luis Enrique, Coates, Bellamy

That's a successful transfer window imo.

One swallow doesn't make a summer, Blackpool were in a similar position after a few games last season.

LOL at all the scousers crowing after three games.

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I wasn't talking about form or league position.  I was talking about the player changes during the summer transfer window, and if the overall net effect has been positive in terms of strengthening the squad or not.

It's around nine months too early to judge but on paper it looks good.

[mondatoo]

Sacking Wenger would be a huge mistake, as for Liverpool/Arsenal, Liverpool clearly have the better team and I don't think it's close. Arsenal will prob finish 6th and I'd say that's about how good they are right now.

Think Spurs have made a mistake not selling Modric for £40m.

[Dubai]

Your memory must be evading you because Arsenal played the best football in the league LAST year, beat MU, Chelsea and Liverpool at home and choked against minnows

Both Liverpool games finished 1-1 but point about choking against minnows is true

Meant Barca sorry, nice of me to group Liverpool as a game big game tho

[maldini32]

had a cheeky £30 on everton for relegation at 18s.

No chance Everton getting relegated.

Saha and Stracqualursi were always gonna be first choice strikers ahead of Beckford/Yak.

Arteta missed a lot of last season so hes not gonna be as a big a miss as say two years ago.

Everton will finish in top half, there are 10 worse teams than them and they have a brilliant manager.

[boldie]

Liverpool are bringing in players, Spurs are bringing players in AND keeping Modric (though he's a big like Cesc and will probably go next season), ManU spend a bit of dosh, Chelsea are moving on with some nice moves.....Arsenal couldn't even bring Cahill to the emirates FFS.

Really?  Who Spurs have brought in?  Parker?  Yeah he may stand out in a team that was relegated last season but his he ready for title challenges and Champions League, Chelsea didn't think so?  Adebayor?  He's on loan (ffs eh), but personally I think that's an excellent signing  Oh yeah they managed to turn down £40m for player that wants to leave and gave a shocking performance in a 1-5 loss last weekend.  And they couldn't bring Cahill either, perhaps Bolton are throwing spanners in the works rather than Arsenal not being able to sign him.    That was it for Spurs, I guess they couldn't do too much after we stopped being linked to players afterall

Liverpool have made a few signings but none of them could be considered amazingly better than our signings.  Signing Bellemy back is really moving forward eh?  Chelsea same again, very quiet from them I thought, can't see a massive improvement on their squad.  Man City, well when money is no object  you can't argue, but then they've signed some howlers in recent times.  Man U have made some great signings, I'll give you that.

If the people aren't available, you can't sign them.  Are you sure you're not just trolling with your anti-Arsenal hat on?  You should swap with Arsene, he's got a magic hat.

Chelsea in the past few months, including Jan transfer window as they made some big signings then,  brought in; Torres (who surely will improve again?), Luiz, Mereiles, Mata and Lukaku (who will be a big player for them) and have kept their best players (inc Drogba etc)

Spurs; Friedel; Adebayor (loan), Parker and, more importantly, kept Modric. (One bad game doesn't make him a bad player). So essentially strengthened their team.

Liverpool; Suarez, Carrol (though I still think they paid massively over the odds for him) Downing (Meh,  but he has fitted in well much to my surprise), Enrique, Henderson. Lost Torres and Raul in the same period. Definitely improved their team.

Man U, obv stronger again.
City; Obv no-one can compete with them in the market.

Arsenal; Gervinho (good player, no doubt), Park (meh) Mertesacker (as above), Santos (don't know enough about him), Benayoun (you really needed a player like him so that's a good signing), Arteta..(as above..Flashes of brilliance don't cut it BTW..you want to be challenging for trophies FFS..you need a perm brilliant player). Out; Cesc (always gonna happen so why was this not anticipated earlier in the transferwindow??), Nasri, Clichy (And loads of deadwood which is obv very good.). Weaker than you were last season when you were already weaker than before etc.

For a club like Arsenal the continual decline in your team should not be good enough. You have a nice shiny new stadium, you have a good philosophy about football and everything in place to be a very successful and exciting club.

But you've done nothing with it in the past few years...that's the dissapointing thing. It's not being anti-Arsenal, or even anti-wenger who clearly has done a great job at Arsenal. I just think Wenger has had his time at Arsenal and should be replaced by someone else..probably after this season when you have failed to win anything again.

[Graham C]

So we may as well pack up and call it a day?

I think we're always going to disagree on this, I really don't see how you can see the signings Spurs have made as strengthening their side yet ours isn't strengthened.  Fabrigas and Nasri are a huge loss  but the world isnt full of world class players to replace them with.   We played a fair chunk season without Fabrigas and Nasri wasn't the player in the last half the season he was in the first, not that it's a good thing to lose two world class players.

I'm excited about our signings, especially Mertesacker and Arteta, I think they'll do well and what I've seen of Gervinho this season he's looking good too (when he's not getting sent off!) 

Like I said, your the glass is half empty, especially when it comes to Arsenal, personally I think it's great improvement. 

[boldie]

So we may as well pack up and call it a day?

No, completely not...absolutely not. Like I said, you have everything in place to be awesome (again), Barcelona-esque even, but you need something to change..and I think that something has to be your manager. (Cruyff got sacked at Barca as well because it simply wasn't working anymore with him as the manager. Didn't make him a bad manager, and it doesn't he was easy to replace. He is still a legend in Barcelona because of his lasting legacy.

Wenger's lasting legacy could, and should, be that he turned Arsenal into a club that played superb football , the way it's meant to be played. But it won't be that if this keeps up.

[Dubai]

Am I on at 2-7?

[mondatoo]

So we may as well pack up and call it a day?

I think we're always going to disagree on this, I really don't see how you can see the signings Spurs have made as strengthening their side yet ours isn't strengthened.  Fabrigas and Nasri are a huge loss  but the world isnt full of world class players to replace them with.   We played a fair chunk season without Fabrigas and Nasri wasn't the player in the last half the season he was in the first, not that it's a good thing to lose two world class players.

I'm excited about our signings, especially Mertesacker and Arteta, I think they'll do well and what I've seen of Gervinho this season he's looking good too (when he's not getting sent off!) 

Like I said, your the glass is half empty, especially when it comes to Arsenal, personally I think it's great improvement. 

Level ?

[boldie]

Am I on at 2-7?

For a top6 finish? No, I would still expect arsenal to finish top6...but why is this all-of a sudden good enough for Arsenal?

That is what tilts me....you went from being the best team in the league 5-6 years ago to being happy getting a top 6 finish. It doesn't add up.

[maldini32]

So we may as well pack up and call it a day?

I think we're always going to disagree on this, I really don't see how you can see the signings Spurs have made as strengthening their side yet ours isn't strengthened.  Fabrigas and Nasri are a huge loss  but the world isnt full of world class players to replace them with.   We played a fair chunk season without Fabrigas and Nasri wasn't the player in the last half the season he was in the first, not that it's a good thing to lose two world class players.

I'm excited about our signings, especially Mertesacker and Arteta, I think they'll do well and what I've seen of Gervinho this season he's looking good too (when he's not getting sent off!) 

Like I said, your the glass is half empty, especially when it comes to Arsenal, personally I think it's great improvement. 

I can see where your coming from, your back 4 is a monumental improvement. You have Vermaelan, Mertesacker and Santos added to your back 4 plus the best RB in prem.

The whole world seemed to massively over react to the 8-2 defeat to Man Utd. Wenger had 2nd/3rd choice players playing due to injuries and suspensions.

Fabregas and Nasri are big losses obv but getting your back defence sorted was a massive priority. If i remember rightly Fabregas missed a lot of last season and Nasri faded away towards back end (not saying they arent top class). Arteta/Benayoun are astute buys from Wenger. Premiership experience and will fit in well the way Arsenal play.

So Overall Id say yes it is an improvement.

Ps Bendtner's done one.