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skolsuper
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Re: Full house, oh dear.
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1000% call, how are you getting on with that job search Dave? Villain has to play Ax this way so he can get called when he has 88, would assume most regs figure this and can't see anybody except total dribblers check/calling the river with Ax here. Think you've gotten yourself confused with your combinatorics a bit here, AhKx is 4 combos on this board, AhQx 4 more, AhJx 3 more, and so on. In fact I would like to revise upwards my initial assessment of the % of the time we are calling
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Do you agree with pleno keys?
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Quote from: cambridgealex on September 01, 2011, 05:35:15 PM
Do you agree with pleno keys?
, FAIL. No I don't because he said it's close and didn't commit to an answer. The clown.
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Quote from: skolsuper on September 01, 2011, 05:37:38 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on September 01, 2011, 05:35:15 PM
Do you agree with pleno keys?
, FAIL. No I don't because he said it's close and didn't commit to an answer. The clown.
Haha, knew you hadn't gone soft
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Quote from: skolsuper on September 01, 2011, 05:05:00 PM
1000% call, how are you getting on with that job search Dave? Villain has to play Ax this way so he can get called when he has 88, would assume most regs figure this and can't see anybody except total dribblers check/calling the river with Ax here. Think you've gotten yourself confused with your combinatorics a bit here, AhKx is 4 combos on this board, AhQx 4 more, AhJx 3 more, and so on. In fact I would like to revise upwards my initial assessment of the % of the time we are calling
In theory this is correct, in reality not many people check shove Ax here, but they do 88- its a $20 comp, i doubt he is as balanced as you are assuming
Its a slight +ev call but if u wanna lay me 9-1 they have 88 here il prob take it
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September 01, 2011, 07:28:27 PM »
lol at balancing how you play Ax on AA88x so you can get paid when you have quads, please.
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Quote from: Royal Flush on September 01, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
lol at balancing how you play Ax on AA88x so you can get paid when you have quads, please.
mate there are antes in this hand, don't need your input
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Quote from: skolsuper on September 01, 2011, 07:35:35 PM
Quote from: Royal Flush on September 01, 2011, 07:28:27 PM
lol at balancing how you play Ax on AA88x so you can get paid when you have quads, please.
mate there are antes in this hand, don't need your input
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sigh
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September 01, 2011, 08:44:00 PM »
i never said it was a fold.
I was just adding balance to the thread following 7 straight claims it was a backflip fistpump snap call.
I don't know how many A*'s he opens, maybe this guy is opening ATo+ (11combo's, and A2-A5 A8/A9 suiteds which is 7 more) so if thats 17combo's of A* and 1 88, if he'd chk jamming A* 50% of the time its a call, if 25% of the time we're breaking even, 20% of the time we're losing.
I'd call and expect to make a bit a chip or two but I strongly disagree its ass clear cut as everyone claims.
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and you are correct
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Quote from: SuuPRlim on September 01, 2011, 04:16:26 PM
yh true lol - middy in your esteemed opinion what combo's of Ah X would you expect an aggressive reg to open UTG?
either way when one out come is +3,175 and one is -12,173 then he needs 4 Ah X combo's which he easy has to break even on the call so yh it's prolly a call asumming he plays A* here this way 100% of the time, if we think 50% of the time he'll value bet A* then we now need 8 combo's of A*'s in his opening range to break even which is pretty thin.
It looks for sure like you have an ACE, but because if he has an ace also it makes it slightly LESS likely you do so that's why I think he'll c/j A* with a lower frequency than 88 (speshly as you can't have an
all suited aces, ATo+. 12+11= 23 AhXx combos.
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Should we just bet more on the river here?
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Quote from: Royal Flush on September 02, 2011, 12:23:58 AM
Should we just bet more on the river here?
tut, we should obviously be checking the river!
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