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SuuPRlim
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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October 18, 2011, 04:53:11 AM »
reasoning for river sizing is that I think his range on the river is pretty much exclusively AIR and bad flushes. he has a straight pretty rarely in this spot and 55 pretty much never.
I felt that as he knows I know he never has the the
in his hand my best bet for value was just to try price him into making a bad call with a small flush, give that he knows i know he never has the nuts he might level himself into flicking it in given he's getting around 4-1, he could easily be persuaded to think I am bluffing 25% of time. Also I wondered if he might super level himself into 3betting but that is seriously unlikely.
Was a close call between this and potting, but felt pot just never get's called even though you are right that it reps a bluff better, I just think his thoughts on the river here will be that whereas I am more than capable of bluffing here he prolly has to give me credit given how little history (speshly in PLO) we have. He also prolly views me as slightly tighter than I am because the previous two sessions together I've been directly OOP to him playing NLHE, and he doesn't know that PLO is my main game. the main problem I had with the small raise is that it kinda opens my value range to potentially include the
and
flushes which should make him fold more.
IDK just felt like in this vacuum this bet might get called a touch more often.
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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October 18, 2011, 05:07:07 AM »
no real play today, spent 5 hours grinding 2/5 and 5/10 at the wynn so they'd let me take some of my deposit out in cash. was very tilting lol - was down $2k if id have lost two bags in this circumstance id have been livid.
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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Quote from: SuuPRlim on October 17, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: pleno1 on October 17, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
Its fine, who cares.
Potential to be greatest PHA thread ever, please keep going.
hand 1. i def squeeze pre ldo, I probably throw in a $1k chip pre.
I'd cb here most of time, common trait ive seen in higher stakes live games is fish who play passive pre can often c/r for info/protection more than they possibly should. I think I cback here as we can ave best hand and can call down on certain cards, aswell as getting to showdown for free with lots of hands where he gives up on.
we're OOP in the AK hand? would you c/f if you didnt cbet?
on sorry yeh
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Quote from: pleno1 on October 18, 2011, 09:43:14 AM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on October 17, 2011, 09:27:42 PM
Quote from: pleno1 on October 17, 2011, 08:43:56 PM
Its fine, who cares.
Potential to be greatest PHA thread ever, please keep going.
hand 1. i def squeeze pre ldo, I probably throw in a $1k chip pre.
I'd cb here most of time, common trait ive seen in higher stakes live games is fish who play passive pre can often c/r for info/protection more than they possibly should. I think I cback here as we can ave best hand and can call down on certain cards, aswell as getting to showdown for free with lots of hands where he gives up on.
we're OOP in the AK hand? would you c/f if you didnt cbet?
on sorry yeh
...... watchagonnadohere pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeekNOw?
Dan Morgan has joined me in LV and has agreed to add his hands to this thread also!!!
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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i am chewing gum similar to the popcorn gif, i want moar
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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October 18, 2011, 03:24:43 PM »
I think it would be better and more conducive to pha if you posted hands in individual threads. I'm probably not alone when I say I can't be bothered to read around all this clutter. Just blog the fluff or put it in a journal thread or something.
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October 18, 2011, 03:28:22 PM »
Or clearly label each hand so you know which people are referring to when they respond
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defo CBA to start a journal thread, my blog is hard enough to maintain. will try label?
Hand 5 (no idea if this is hand 5 or not, but we'll go with it)
$25/$50 ($100 BB ante) NL
Folds to me in the cuttof playing $20k
I Raise to $200 with
SB and BB call
Flop ($700)
Chk. Chk I Cbet $450
SB Folds, BB (A quite tight, but obviously shrewd pro) Calls.
Turn ($1,600)
BB leads $1,150 and he has ~$9,000 behind.
Thoughts?
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October 19, 2011, 02:59:06 PM »
Call. Just in case...
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October 19, 2011, 03:03:19 PM »
is this on ok Cbet with a kinda fishy player in the SB?
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October 19, 2011, 03:21:12 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on October 19, 2011, 03:03:19 PM
is this on ok Cbet with a kinda fishy player in the SB?
yeh, would check back a decent % though
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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October 19, 2011, 04:21:22 PM »
i think its std b/f, he will come along alot, and they get scared t c/r these boards.
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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October 19, 2011, 04:38:51 PM »
Quote from: SuuPRlim on October 17, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Another hand from yesterday, not gonna go into my logic just gonna harvest some opinion....
$25/$50/$100 Round of Each.
Andrey (super sick high stakes player) opens to $300 (playing $30k), Btn calls
I call in the Big blind playing ~$16k with
and the fish in the straddle calls.
Flop ($925)
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I chk, fish chks, Andrey bets $700, I call, fish folds (sigh)
Turn ($2,325)
(which we LOVE)
I chk, he chks behind (sigh)
River
I chk. he bets $1,650, I raise to $4,000.
Andrey notes - a super super NLHE sicko, and defo the best NL player I ever played vs, we spoken quite a bit the day before and he said professed to be kinda inexperienced in PLO (I did not tell him I played PLO exclusively online) so I we can assume he will be pretty good, read hands very well and if he does have a weakness it will prolly be in slightly over-valuing value hands, I.E value betting a bit thin etc. but can assume he'll be pretty sick at the game, no tells/reads, at this point he was breaking even, but doesn't seem to be the type to tilt off at all.
Thoughts on leading the flop?
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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October 19, 2011, 04:53:17 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on October 19, 2011, 04:21:22 PM
i think its std b/f, he will come along alot, and they get scared t c/r these boards.
Pleno, are my hand histories impossible to read lol cos you always mis-read the action. it goes
chk chk I bet flop, fold, BB calls.
BB leads turn, its on me facing a $1,150 bet into $1,600 with $9k effective.
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Re: Vegass Handddss
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Quote from: NoflopsHomer on October 19, 2011, 04:38:51 PM
Quote from: SuuPRlim on October 17, 2011, 06:10:39 PM
Another hand from yesterday, not gonna go into my logic just gonna harvest some opinion....
$25/$50/$100 Round of Each.
Andrey (super sick high stakes player) opens to $300 (playing $30k), Btn calls
I call in the Big blind playing ~$16k with
and the fish in the straddle calls.
Flop ($925)
.
I chk, fish chks, Andrey bets $700, I call, fish folds (sigh)
Turn ($2,325)
(which we LOVE)
I chk, he chks behind (sigh)
River
I chk. he bets $1,650, I raise to $4,000.
Andrey notes - a super super NLHE sicko, and defo the best NL player I ever played vs, we spoken quite a bit the day before and he said professed to be kinda inexperienced in PLO (I did not tell him I played PLO exclusively online) so I we can assume he will be pretty good, read hands very well and if he does have a weakness it will prolly be in slightly over-valuing value hands, I.E value betting a bit thin etc. but can assume he'll be pretty sick at the game, no tells/reads, at this point he was breaking even, but doesn't seem to be the type to tilt off at all.
Thoughts on leading the flop?
yeah defo. reasons I didnt was because andrey is likely to bet for value wider IP vs the fish and I look really strong when I lead, so will get a fold from the fish a lot and really want to keep him in, 300big deep OOP vs andrey isn't that valuable a spot.
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