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« on: October 23, 2011, 11:44:58 AM »

Decided to exclude from the other thread cos I genuinely want advice on this hand - preflop dynamics in nl holdem are definatley my weakest area.

$25/$50 ($100 BB ante)

4 Handed.

I open  UTG to $175 playing $6,600.

Folds to Eric Lieu in the BB who makes it $600 (covering me)

Wanted to discuss the merits of i) Folding, ii) Calling, iii) 4Bet Folding, iv) 4Bet Calling.

We've played quite a bit together and my image is always quite tight preflop in NLHE - as in I dont really open not good hands, he 100% thinks I'm capable of 4betting "light" but is defo knows that I have tighter opening ranges than most people, even 4 handed. We have had a few 4bets between us this is only the second time i 4bet him and he folded the first time (that was a cold 4bet tho), and I 5bet jammed once Btn vs CO and he folded.
I just lost a brutal $30k pot an orbit ago so he might think i'm slightly tilted, but doubt that will play too much on his decision. The way he's played this session would indicate he is pretty respectful of my game.
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2011, 11:58:22 AM »

I'd fold.
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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2011, 04:50:21 PM »

Probably just fold and not tell anyone.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2011, 04:58:30 PM »

Probably just fold and not tell anyone.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2011, 06:03:17 PM »

calling obv the fishy option.

I'm really interested in the diff between 4bet folding and 4bet calling here?
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2011, 06:18:17 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2011, 06:24:45 PM »

I prefer calling to 4 betting. Fold>call>4bf>4bc
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« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2011, 06:44:28 PM »

I prefer calling to 4 betting. Fold>call>4bf>4bc

how does this alter if its ? or does it not?
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« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2011, 06:58:02 PM »

I prefer calling to 4 betting. Fold>call>4bf>4bc

how does this alter if its ? or does it not?

Call>4bf>fold>4bc

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« Reply #9 on: October 23, 2011, 07:00:43 PM »

ty everyone.

Getting there
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« Reply #10 on: October 24, 2011, 02:01:38 AM »

Fold>4Bf>Call>4Bc
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« Reply #11 on: October 24, 2011, 02:07:02 AM »

ty everyone.

Getting there
Your blog suggests at least you are spotting your mistakes.  Great read tho.  Smiley
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« Reply #12 on: October 24, 2011, 02:52:34 AM »

Fold>4Bf>Call>4Bc
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« Reply #13 on: October 24, 2011, 03:16:21 AM »


Good one Mitch
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« Reply #14 on: October 24, 2011, 03:23:39 AM »

well i may as well tell you all what happened Tongue

as people who play wioth me know i dont really get into this 3/4/5betitng too much, usually because its 9handed and i dont see too much need, but here in a 4handed game with a couple of good aggressive players I felt it time to get involved.

I made $1450 which after discussion with some people it seems was a hundred or two too much, he tanked for quite a while before jamming and i folded v quickly, it wasnt until after the hand I wondered if not considering a 4b/call was burning equity but it didnt cross my mind at the time and I still feel its a huge spew.

folding still remains a happy standard, but I felt it a decent spot for a "light" 4bet and it will have prolly helped my image a little bit as well, remember there is an ante in there.

TY again for all the feedback x
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