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« on: December 04, 2011, 04:19:19 PM »

Need help understanding this hand......nt #475222671, $3.00+$0.30 USD Omaha Hi/Lo Pot Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2011/12/04 15:54:36 WET [2011/12/04 10:54:36 ET]
Table '475222671 15' 9-max Seat #9 is the button
Seat 1: AgentOrgange (2877 in chips)
Seat 2: VoinKoron (2405 in chips)
Seat 3: ziarek24 (5450 in chips)
Seat 4: murmurAs (2790 in chips)
Seat 5: jura2002 (2985 in chips)
Seat 6: 450deejay (3045 in chips)
Seat 7: SLEEPER11111 (2755 in chips)
Seat 8: magnif7 (2970 in chips)
Seat 9: Schnuppi10 (4965 in chips)
AgentOrgange: posts small blind 15
VoinKoron: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to magnif7 [two hearts As ]
ziarek24: folds
murmurAs: folds
jura2002: calls 30
450deejay: folds
SLEEPER11111: raises 30 to 60
magnif7: raises 90 to 150
Schnuppi10: folds
AgentOrgange: folds
VoinKoron: folds
jura2002: folds
SLEEPER11111: calls 90
*** FLOP *** [ ]
SLEEPER11111: checks
magnif7: bets 150
SLEEPER11111: calls 150
*** TURN *** [ ] []
SLEEPER11111: checks
magnif7: checks
*** RIVER *** [ ] []
SLEEPER11111: bets 180
magnif7: calls 180
*** SHOW DOWN ***
SLEEPER11111: shows [ three clubs Two Diamonds] (HI: a pair of Fives; LO: 8,5,4,2,A)
magnif7: shows [two hearts As ] (HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,5,4,2,A)
magnif7 collected 518 from pot
SLEEPER11111 collected 259 from pot
magnif7 collected 258 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1035 | Rake 0
Board [ ]
Seat 1: AgentOrgange (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 2: VoinKoron (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: ziarek24 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: murmurAs folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: jura2002 folded before Flop
Seat 6: 450deejay folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 7: SLEEPER11111 showed [ three clubs Two Diamonds] and won (259) with HI: a pair of Fives; LO: 8,5,4,2,A
Seat 8: magnif7 showed [two hearts As ] and won (776) with HI: a flush, Ace high; LO: 8,5,4,2,A
Seat 9: Schnuppi10 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
I win high hand with a-high flush, and split low with a/2 low, i thought that u can only use two cards mine being  , can u use another two cards for low including  , basically using  twice?? help please!!!!
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2011, 05:13:35 PM »

yes, you can use the  twice.

It's a very marginal and very small threebet, i'd avoid that. Flop is ok, but defo turn barrell needed to convince bare diamonds/one pair hands to fold. defo only call river.
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« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2011, 06:09:27 PM »

thanks m8
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« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2011, 06:14:08 PM »

only call river? cant be 3/4 him more than we can us?
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« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2011, 07:21:00 PM »

only call river? cant be 3/4 him more than we can us?

what you expecting him to show up with?

raising river is huge spew and turning a decent hand into a bruff.
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« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2011, 07:28:31 PM »

the river raise would be for value btw.

i dont play hilo ofc just asking.
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« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2011, 07:31:19 PM »

the river raise would be for value btw.

i dont play hilo ofc just asking.

against what hand?

if he's particularly spazzy you might get him to call with A2 and diamonds or a bare 5 and diamonds, but unlikely. all his other combo draws that make some straights or none nut flushes raise the flop anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: December 05, 2011, 05:19:31 AM »

raise river 100% of the time
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« Reply #8 on: December 05, 2011, 05:44:11 PM »

it was my initial though too
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« Reply #9 on: December 05, 2011, 06:23:06 PM »

Prolly do a raise on river given villains line
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« Reply #10 on: December 05, 2011, 06:49:23 PM »

This isnt the nightly $100 on stars we can raise the river here how hand is played.

Small 3 bet here isnt bad but not knowing that you can use the As twice is.

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« Reply #11 on: December 05, 2011, 06:58:33 PM »

spoke to 5 people who play hilo and confirmed river raise is std Cheesy

Marc must have misread board I guess as he plays alot more hilo than me.
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« Reply #12 on: December 06, 2011, 11:32:29 PM »

Flat pre, check back flop, bet turn, pot river.
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« Reply #13 on: December 07, 2011, 02:07:31 PM »

in a $3 tourney you should definitely pump the river
I'd usually flat pre btw. turn is for barrelz.

i see why homer wants to check back flop, but i bet it.

(as for OP's original question you can use any two cards for high and then any two for low, including neither, one or both of the cards you used to make your high)
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« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2011, 02:54:31 PM »

maybe in a $3 tournament betting the river is ok because people will be bad and call with worse/no-hands etc.

betting this river against anyone competent without a very good reason to is a huge mistake and where I get a lot of my edge in split pot games.
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