Get off my Train

[mondatoo]

So many assumptions being made about the young person in the video.

[GreekStein]

Like what, ray?

Most people have made the assumption that he's a fucknugget which is right.

[ManuelsMum]

Had that been me, I'd have been asked to get off the train. Show me the justice. Also, let's see how heroic that fat guy is when he gets slapped with an assault charge lol.

Try look less like a homeless guy?  

Guy is a hero. simple

By all accounts, he threw the guy out and he landed face first on the platform.

Alternative scenario, your 'hero' carries out the same actions, but the impact dislodges a blood clot in the ejectee and he dies on the spot. Still a hero? Such 'eggshell skull' situations do arise, and the law shrugs its shoulders at the 'hero' and says 'tough'. Would the murder charge be misguided?

[millidonk]

Had that been me, I'd have been asked to get off the train. Show me the justice. Also, let's see how heroic that fat guy is when he gets slapped with an assault charge lol.

Try look less like a homeless guy?  

Guy is a hero. simple

By all accounts, he threw the guy out and he landed face first on the platform.

Alternative scenario, your 'hero' carries out the same actions, but the impact dislodges a blood clot in the ejectee and he dies on the spot. Still a hero? Such 'eggshell skull' situations do arise, and the law shrugs its shoulders at the 'hero' and says 'tough'. Would the murder charge be misguided?

Manslaughter/ Run better

[Josedinho]

Alternative scenario. Big guy is actually Jack Bauer in body suit. At his final destination he needs to disarm a weapon that will wipe the western world from the face of the Earth. If the train is delayed any longer half the world will die. Still worried about the lads face who didn't have an eggshell skull who's life he has just saved?

[mondatoo]

Like what, ray?

Most people have made the assumption that he's a fucknugget which is right.

Well for one he said he had a ticket but gave the wrong one as he'd just woke up, may or may not be true.

The fact he's a Chav, if I'd been a sleep and then someone was speaking to me like shit and said to get off the train I'd have probably told them to fk off as well and then apologised to the family's for swearing.

Pretty sure there's a few others as well. How is he a fucknugget other than that he may've gave the wrong ticket over being half asleep then got into an arguement with an inspector and got manhandled off a train by a "big man" that wanted to look clever but is really just a twat.

[millidonk]

Well for one he said he had a ticket but gave the wrong one as he'd just woke up, may or may not be true.

The fact he's a Chav, if I'd been a sleep and then someone was speaking to me like shit and said to get off the train I'd have probably told them to fk off as well and then apologised to the family's for swearing.

Pretty sure there's a few others as well. How is he a fucknugget other than that he may've gave the wrong ticket over being half asleep then got into an arguement with an inspector and got manhandled off a train by a "big man" that wanted to look clever but is really just a twat.

BBC Radio this morning his dad said he had bought a ticket but lost it, not woken up and handed the wrong one over.

Lol @ wanting to look clever and is a twat. He wanted to get the train moving again, wanted to stop the poor old conductor being mugged off further, wanted to stand up for all that is wrong with this country. Ban the yuffs, ban hoodies in shopping centres, bring in curfews, no sex before marriage. Ok, ok i might have gone a bit over the edge on the last couple of points.

[Rod Paradise]

Having lost a ticket while changing trains at Birmingham & despite showing the receipt, the ticket down to Reading from 2 days before & having a ticket from Bracknell to Reading that got me to Reading in time for the last train that would get me on to the service to Glasgow that I was on the Guard was for turfing me off at Crewe. No suggestion of taking details and me paying later, nothing but cough up or be turfed off and find accommodation for the night. If I hadn't had the work credit card I'd have given serious thought to getting lifted - at least I'd have got a bed for the night.

Obv take better care of your ticket.. It happens to everyone I lost my ticket going from Newcastle to London at Newcastle, FML, i had my seat reservation stub but couldn't find the ticket. Had to pay £120 I think it was.
[  ] I moaned
[  ] I started swearing and saying i will sit here all night
[  ] I got chucked off the train
[  ] I inconvenienced any other passengers
[ x ] It was completely my own fault
[ x ] I went and bought 8 Stellas and had an ok journey

The guy is doing his job, he must have to put with this shit day in day out. Show a valid ticket or gtfo, no exceptions.

On a similiar note, i have wondered what happens if you get to a bridge toll or similiar and don't have any money or cards?

Some selective quoting there.....


All OK for you then being so balla - what if you hadn't had enough cash on you? What would you have done then?

[ManuelsMum]

Had that been me, I'd have been asked to get off the train. Show me the justice. Also, let's see how heroic that fat guy is when he gets slapped with an assault charge lol.

Try look less like a homeless guy?  

Guy is a hero. simple

By all accounts, he threw the guy out and he landed face first on the platform.

Alternative scenario, your 'hero' carries out the same actions, but the impact dislodges a blood clot in the ejectee and he dies on the spot. Still a hero? Such 'eggshell skull' situations do arise, and the law shrugs its shoulders at the 'hero' and says 'tough'. Would the murder charge be misguided?

Manslaughter/ Run better

Good luck to his counsel trying to show that he didn't think tossing someone out from a train on to their face could easily result in serious injury.
Good luck to his counsel in relying on him not knowing that the guy had a pre-existing condition which meant this throwing would probably kill him. You take your victim as you find them.

[millidonk]

Some selective quoting there.....


All OK for you then being so balla - what if you hadn't had enough cash on you? What would you have done then?

Just quoting what I felt was pertinant to my response

tbf, I think I put it on a credit card, but that aside probs would have got off and rang a friend to come pick me up, get someone to transfer money into my account and buy a ticket, ask the conductor to let me travel to my destination where soemeone would meet me with money, tell him to fuck off and say I will wait here all day until he lets me have my free journey and hold everyone on the train up, whilst abusing the fellow passenger's ears

[gatso]

RE: original video

Does somebody have subtitles? Chavs and Scots alone are difficult enough to understand. The resultant combination is an utterly indecipherable hybrid of vowels.

this version is easier to follow

[ManuelsMum]

Fall asleep? He can't rouse you.
Scotrail are liable for the assault and injuries, I'd be suing them so fast...
Strangely, if the inspector had carried out the assault himself, they wouldn't be liable.

Absolutely no respect for the 'bully' here, hope he gets the book thrown at him, and hard. Every bully and most perpetrators of assault consider their actions more than justified. 'My wife was being a bitch/my kid was being a little spoiled brat/the guy at the bar was eyeing up my wife'. Unless they're mad, there's always a reason. That's why we have such a clear law on it: unless it's in self defence, it's assault, and you will be punished accordingly. You just can't have that kind of behaviour in a civilized society.

yeah swearing infront of kids and not paying for your ticket. People need to be taught lessons.

What would Jesus do?

  get off train when asked without making a fuss

"I tell you the truth, when you were younger you dressed yourself and went where you wanted; but when you are old you will stretch out your hands, and someone else will dress you and lead you where you do not want to go."

What a crock of shit!!

 

[zerofive]

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Normally I'm in your park Milligan, get rid of the idiots etc. but this seems a little extreme. You've paid for your ticket, it's the middle of the night, and some fat scottish bloke gives you the rock bottom onto a train platform. Unjust imo.

Ban the yuffs, ban hoodies in shopping centres, bring in curfews, no sex before marriage. Ok, ok i might have gone a bit over the edge on the last couple of points.

Agree. Way over the edge.

[millidonk]

Yeah, that's pretty bad. Normally I'm in your park Milligan, get rid of the idiots etc. but this seems a little extreme. You've paid for your ticket, it's the middle of the night, and some fat scottish bloke gives you the rock bottom onto a train platform. Unjust imo.

[  ] he has paid

[AndrewT]

Lol at describing Big Man as a bully - he was just someone who wanted to get home vaguely on time.

If the ned hadn't have been such an argumentative prick the conductor wouldn't have wanted him off the train so quickly.

The complaints against Big Man are exactly the reason why few people stand up to anti-social scrotes on public transport. (Though in London there is also the added factor that doing so is liable to get you shanked).