Monte Carlo b/f top pair in 3b pot?

[muckthenuts]

Mid way through day 2. New ish to the table, villian is a young guy with a big stack. He seems to be a good player being aggro pre and post. I've been quite active and been opening a fair bit usually taking it down without showdown. Haven't played a hand of note vs villian yet.

Eff stacks 180k
Blinds 1.5/3k/antes

Villian opens from MP1 to 6.2k.
Hero in BB with   3bets to 18.8k.
Villain calls.

Flop  

Hero cbets 27k. Villain thinks for quite a while then raises to 64k.

I thought this was gross. Think he might defend wideish pre but i dunno about flop bluffing tendencies at all. So many of his value hands are blocked is this important? Standard b/f?

[cambridgealex]

id check flop

[toddswain]

Oh sick, remember this, going playing footy, but will post when i get back, v. interesting hand

[pleno1]

I mean his value range is super thin. I jam, we have bd clubs, gutter, our k out is like alot too and sometimes our A too and its really hard for him to have it. Thoughts on checking?

[jezza777]

We have  so jam seems fair.

[pleno1]

We have  so jam seems fair.

its less likely he's raise calling with pair+fd tho.

[jezza777]

Flop is so wet it's a good spot for him to raise? We get some  folds when we jam?

[SuuPRlim]

We have  so jam seems fair.

its less likely he's raise calling with pair+fd tho.

yh makes it less of a jam for me too. fwiw I dont think he's raise folding this board ever

[sm00035]

Defo checking back flop here. After you have bet, think it is a pretty easy bet/fold

[skolsuper]

A check on the flop opens your opponent's range up a bit and is defs the preferred line against anyone decent. Once you bet tho, go with it imo. You're not that happy about it, but as already posted, you have some equity when called and if villain is ever folding a shove is just so full of win.

[muckthenuts]

A check on the flop opens your opponent's range up a bit and is defs the preferred line against anyone decent. Once you bet tho, go with it imo. You're not that happy about it, but as already posted, you have some equity when called and if villain is ever folding a shove is just so full of win.

What's your checking range here assuming i'm 3betting this spot on the tighter side? I think i'd continue with almost all my value range, KK/QQ hands and also any bluffs, so i'm not sure if i should have a checking range at all?

[muckthenuts]

Bump. Somebody good elaborate why they might check this flop, I don't quite get it.

[pleno1]

pot control.

a young guy could get ideas and get adventurous and commit chips if we check, whilst if we bet not much continues, at least not for two streets and tis probably easier to get value on turn and/or river if we check than if we bet. Also we get ourself in a hard situation where we end up levelling ourself when we bet and he raises.

[action man]

like the sizing pre and post, but I dont think he will be peeling this size wide a ton of the time, and once he does he's bluffing this flop such a small % of the time. Such a puke spot, it feels spewy getting it in here to me, are we not better peeling the flop if we wanna get it in, to keep his random bluffs in? The turn could also bring us draw equity and you might pick up a ninja tell, or he could do something really weird on the turn. Post hand I agree that check might be best, but really, how often are we getting raised on this flop? I dont think folding is a mistake here or exploitable, this flop hits your bb 3bet range so hard that for him to raise here shows so much strength.

[cambridgealex]

pot control.

a young guy could get ideas and get adventurous and commit chips if we check, whilst if we bet not much continues, at least not for two streets and tis probably easier to get value on turn and/or river if we check than if we bet. Also we get ourself in a hard situation where we end up levelling ourself when we bet and he raises.

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