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« Reply #540 on: February 04, 2012, 04:11:19 PM »

Oops, that was meant to read 15-30. Quite impressive how badly wrong I got that.

1-3* atm.

Pending bets:

Jovanoski @ 3/1 v Wickmayer (5 units) LOST - 5 units
Cibulkova @ 4/5 (20 units) v Razzano *0-3 15-13 LOST - 20 units
Cibulkova @ 5/2 (10 units) to win first set *0-3 15-13 LOST - 10 units
Adding in-play: Cibulkova 10 units @ 6/4 4-6 *2-3 deuce LOST - 10 units
In-play: Berdych - 4.5 @ evens v Kohlschreiber (10 units) 0-0 *15-15 WON + 10 units
Youzhny to win 2-0 @ evens (20 units) WON + 20 units

TOTAL PROFIT: + 222.12 units

Intend to sit back, watch and relax...yeah right.
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« Reply #541 on: February 04, 2012, 05:06:25 PM »

Adding in-play: Cibulkova 10 units @ 6/4 4-6 *2-3 deuce

30 units on Cibulkova...could end up being the Montanes - Monaco fiasco from yesterday.  Cheesy
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« Reply #542 on: February 04, 2012, 05:47:41 PM »

Ugh, not great on the Cilbulkova front. Twas a bad pick.

Anyway, on we move.

Monaco @ 11/10 to win 2-0 v Chardy (20 units)
Baghdatis @ 11/10 to win 2-0 (15 units)
Berlocq @ 13/8 to win 2-0 (15 units)
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« Reply #543 on: February 04, 2012, 06:31:43 PM »

Lacko @ 7/4 to win 2-0 *5-5 40-A (20 units)

Really, really expected Baghdatis to have too much for Lacko, but he's being dominated in the rallies and really looks to be struggling.

In fact he's just been broken.

Still want Baggy to win, it'll mean I lost a few units of profit in this match but I will have 35 units to play with tomorrow as I back him before the tournament.

Again it's the case that if it finishes 2-1 to either player, I've fucked myself over a bit.
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« Reply #544 on: February 04, 2012, 06:54:31 PM »

Lacko now 4-1 down. Uh oh... Cheesy

Still think he'll win. Baghdatis doing nothing in the rallies, Lacko just starting to throw in a bunch more errors. Going to lump on Lacko in a few minutes. Just finding the best price/right situation.
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« Reply #545 on: February 04, 2012, 07:00:45 PM »

10 units @ 8/1 for Lacko to win the second set, *4-2 down.

See how this set pans out before I consider anything else.
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« Reply #546 on: February 04, 2012, 07:29:26 PM »

10 units @ 8/1 for Lacko to win the second set, *4-2 down. WON + 80 units
Lacko @ 7/4 to win 2-0 *5-5 40-A (20 units) WON + 35 units
Baghdatis @ 11/10 to win 2-0 (15 units) LOST - 15 units
Baghdatis to win ATP Zagreb @ 7/2 (10 units) LOST - 10 units
Berlocq @ 13/8 to win 2-0 (15 units) LOST - 15 units
Monaco @ 11/10 to win 2-0 v Chardy (20 units)

TOTAL PROFIT: + 297.12 units

Huge for me if Lacko takes this tie-breaker. He's 1-2* down though...

Will edit and update this post as no fresh selections.

Absolutely superb tennis from Lacko. Dominated Baghdatis in any rally that was 6 shots or me. Baghdatis only really getting free points on his serve when he was able to make quick one-two shots.
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« Reply #547 on: February 04, 2012, 11:21:05 PM »

TOTAL PROFIT: + 297.12 units

Monaco @ 11/10 to win 2-0 v Chardy (20 units)

Adding: Berlocq to win third set 6-1 (10 units) @ 17/2 6-3, 4-6 0-0

Bit left field to choose 6-1 and to stick as much as 10 units on it, will explain later.
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« Reply #548 on: February 04, 2012, 11:24:32 PM »

Adding in-play: Berlocq 25 units @ 4/5 1-1 in sets *0-0 0-30
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« Reply #549 on: February 04, 2012, 11:51:39 PM »

Adding in-play: Berlocq 25 units @ 4/5 1-1 in sets *0-0 0-30 WON + 20 units
Adding: Berlocq to win third set 6-1 (10 units) @ 17/2 6-3, 4-6 0-0 LOST - 10 units
Monaco @ 11/10 to win 2-0 v Chardy (20 units) WON + 22 units

TOTAL PROFIT: + 329.12 units

Pretty sickening that Berlocq actually won the final set 6-0! Sad

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Berdych to win ATP Montpellier @ 4/1 (10 units)

Can't see anything for tonight. Going to resist the temptation to trade set betting in-play and just let the Monaco match play out. If I see any value with an outright win, might have a bet.
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« Reply #550 on: February 04, 2012, 11:59:17 PM »

WTF is going on here?

I haven't looked at this diary for about a week and you've gone from having 2 units on 4/5 shots to 10 units on naming the correct score on a set?!?!?

Time for a few days off before you piss your profits away?
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« Reply #551 on: February 05, 2012, 12:04:39 AM »

Don't want to be overly critical mate but what exactly is your plan with the staking here.  I just read your first page again and you suggested pretty much every bet was going to be one unit and then last week when I questioned how come you had nearly 10% (47 units total) of your roll on Djokovic was it because you thought it was one of the best bets ever you responded yes yet this week you have had 60 units on one match and then 10 units on a single set in running and now 25 points on an individual game.  You have obviously had some good results but I am starting to wonder how much of it is down to your tennis expertise and how much is down to just bizarre and haphazard staking and chasing in running.  It is almost Martingale-esque
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« Reply #552 on: February 05, 2012, 12:06:16 AM »

WTF is going on here?

I haven't looked at this diary for about a week and you've gone from having 2 units on 4/5 shots to 10 units on naming the correct score on a set?!?!?

Time for a few days off before you piss your profits away?

In my own self-interest, I'll take a side-bet I don't?!

Was watching the match and Chela was gone. He somehow nicked the second set and I expected him to lose. Berlocq was serving first so if he wins his first service game then breaks and holds serve, he's 3-0 up. One more break and hold takes him to 5-0 and he'd have had to break AGAIN to win 6-0. Felt Chela would hold at least one service game, but he didn't.

In any case, fully expected Berlocq to win and felt it was worth a punt.
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« Reply #553 on: February 05, 2012, 12:07:42 AM »

Don't want to be overly critical mate but what exactly is your plan with the staking here.  I just read your first page again and you suggested pretty much every bet was going to be one unit and then last week when I questioned how come you had nearly 10% (47 units total) of your roll on Djokovic was it because you thought it was one of the best bets ever you responded yes yet this week you have had 60 units on one match and then 10 units on a single set in running and now 25 points on an individual game.  You have obviously had some good results but I am starting to wonder how much of it is down to your tennis expertise and how much is down to just bizarre and haphazard staking and chasing in running.  It is almost Martingale-esque

Got MOTD on record and going to watch it with friends, but will address this later. Don't want it to seem like I'm avoiding the post as I've just responded to Camel.
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« Reply #554 on: February 05, 2012, 02:29:12 AM »

Don't want to be overly critical mate but what exactly is your plan with the staking here.  I just read your first page again and you suggested pretty much every bet was going to be one unit and then last week when I questioned how come you had nearly 10% (47 units total) of your roll on Djokovic was it because you thought it was one of the best bets ever you responded yes yet this week you have had 60 units on one match and then 10 units on a single set in running and now 25 points on an individual game.  You have obviously had some good results but I am starting to wonder how much of it is down to your tennis expertise and how much is down to just bizarre and haphazard staking and chasing in running.  It is almost Martingale-esque

Right, will answer. Probably be tl;dr.

Originally planned for small stake, low risk backing of players outright before matches. Was comfortable doing it and it was going fairly well. I've since found and very much believe that the best way to make money is betting in-play. I will still back players I can't always watch for smaller amounts, i.e. for 10 units or less (occasionally more if I really like a bet); however I think it's OK to be willing to risk more in certain situations if you're watching the action as it actually unfolds. Your eyes are your greatest tools. Somebody can give you all the stats you like, but if what your seeing isn't in line with those stats then you shouldn't be afraid to oppose them.

Some of my worst bets in recent weeks have come when I've either placed a pre-match bet and relied far too much on my stats or when I've refused to back my judgment and made mistakes following the market. A perfect example of being reliant on stats was the Baghdatis pre-match to win 2-0 bet that I made today. Statistically you could justify the selection, but on the face of it he was far too short. I won't go into extensive detail as to why as it'll bore you, but that's a perfect example of where I'll hold my hands up and say I made a bad call and used poor reasoning for it.

An example of following the market and ignoring what was in front of my eyes was the Cibulkova match today. I'd decided Razzano was awful and Cibulkova would definitely mount a comeback; I saw the market prices and they seemed to agree and I convinced myself I was right. Yet the reality is when I really analyse the bets I made, I was actually watching Cibulkova struggle quite badly and as such should never have backed her as heavily as I did. I allowed too many external factors to distract me from what I was really witnessing.

The Montanes match was a car crash. I tried to trade out back Montanes to win 2-0 as he was all over Monaco like a rash. I think of the 3 games Monaco won in the first set, not one of them was without Montanes at least getting to 30 on his serve whilst Montanes sailed through his. I made a mistake and wrote Monaco off, I just didn't see him coming back and he well and truly turned the tables on me and left me in trouble.

I appreciate it's a risk to be sticking a large % of your bankroll up in just one match. I'm no expert, never pretended I am and will never pretend too be. I think I can see matches for what they are and react accordingly. Sometimes I will get it wrong (Montanes), other times I will get pick out a gem (Benesova @ 8/1 in-play). I might need a lesson in two on better bankroll management, but this entire year was about learning for me. I hadn't bet on tennis properly for 18 months or so and was rusty.

Whilst I enjoy backing lots of matches for smaller stakes, it's harder to get a true picture for what's happening if you're unable to witness the action. I've come to the realisation I'd rather back less matches but bet larger if I am doing it in-play as I can watch the action unfold and make more informed decisions.

You might be right. I might be making haphazard, crazy bets and getting lucky. We'll see. I personally don't believe that's the case, but the only way to prove that is to carry on.
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