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« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2019, 11:24:20 PM »

It makes the site substantially less safe and makes a new level of unfairness between fair players and those that cheat.

Also all anyone can do is to take party's word on detection as the player pool has zero way of detecting bots and collusion.

Again, even on stars where detection is first rate the players have done a substantial amount of policing.

It's simply a site I wouldnt touch, sorry
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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2019, 12:18:26 AM »

It makes the site substantially less safe and makes a new level of unfairness between fair players and those that cheat.

Also all anyone can do is to take party's word on detection as the player pool has zero way of detecting bots and collusion.

Again, even on stars where detection is first rate the players have done a substantial amount of policing.

It's simply a site I wouldnt touch, sorry

People talk about cheating in online poker, but its also thing in live poker too. Another reason I have pretty much given up playing cards now.

There are cliques out there, mostly, in fact pretty much all, are groups of young lads. Found out lately they speak to each other and give signals to each other in many different ways. The latest is they text each other, without the player in the hand looking at his phone, but knowing that's a signal to call.

But also I am pretty critical of people here - There are still plenty of decent and funny folk you're happy to play cards with. Not everyone is out there to go through your pockets, etc. 
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« Reply #32 on: September 12, 2019, 12:25:47 PM »

Local cash only for me at weekends when the games are still soft enough to have a good laugh with the regs and win a few quid.  No banter in a live game now and i just leave no matter how profitable it is.  Dabbled on sky poker now and again late at night once the evening dogs have finished to relax and won a few quid over the last year or so but not totally convinced if you are a 1% sports punter on skybet they 'flick the switch' to make sure you don't win too much on poker.   Sounds crazy but given how soft the site is my mtt graph shouldn't look how it does shape wise.   First big win mtt wise alarms bells go off at , 1% sports betting account viewed and you suddenly break even for the next 9 months in games that are impossible to break even in against the lolregs.  Going to let the dust settle and try my theory on a 100% clean skybet/poker account previously unused and see if the account runs closer to ev than the previous one did. 

Casually dropping in the intention to Multi Account on a poker site Tikay works for, ballsy/moronic move just like most of this post.

Agree with Teddyboat, haven't touched party since they made the cash game changes.
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« Reply #33 on: September 12, 2019, 01:48:42 PM »

It makes the site substantially less safe and makes a new level of unfairness between fair players and those that cheat.

Also all anyone can do is to take party's word on detection as the player pool has zero way of detecting bots and collusion.

Again, even on stars where detection is first rate the players have done a substantial amount of policing.

It's simply a site I wouldnt touch, sorry


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« Reply #34 on: September 12, 2019, 01:57:21 PM »

DTD partnerred with partypoker in 2016 or 17 when they decided to move away from their previous platform (Ipoker then cryptologic or the other way round)

GVC then did a deal with Rob where he became poker consultant in a deal through to 2021 i believe, so he is heavily involved in the development and current growth of the business

For the sake of open-ness I was recently appointed Head of Content at partypoker having previously worked at partypokerlive at Nottingham.

Hence my reply here
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« Reply #35 on: September 12, 2019, 02:42:37 PM »

Local cash only for me at weekends when the games are still soft enough to have a good laugh with the regs and win a few quid.  No banter in a live game now and i just leave no matter how profitable it is.  Dabbled on sky poker now and again late at night once the evening dogs have finished to relax and won a few quid over the last year or so but not totally convinced if you are a 1% sports punter on skybet they 'flick the switch' to make sure you don't win too much on poker.   Sounds crazy but given how soft the site is my mtt graph shouldn't look how it does shape wise.   First big win mtt wise alarms bells go off at , 1% sports betting account viewed and you suddenly break even for the next 9 months in games that are impossible to break even in against the lolregs.  Going to let the dust settle and try my theory on a 100% clean skybet/poker account previously unused and see if the account runs closer to ev than the previous one did. 

Casually dropping in the intention to Multi Account on a poker site Tikay works for, ballsy/moronic move just like most of this post.

Agree with Teddyboat, haven't touched party since they made the cash game changes.

Where did i say anything about multi accounting?   Once i start using a new account obviously i won't be playing on the old one otherwise it defeats the object of trying an unrestricted skybet account to play poker on. 
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« Reply #36 on: September 12, 2019, 03:23:02 PM »

Local cash only for me at weekends when the games are still soft enough to have a good laugh with the regs and win a few quid.  No banter in a live game now and i just leave no matter how profitable it is.  Dabbled on sky poker now and again late at night once the evening dogs have finished to relax and won a few quid over the last year or so but not totally convinced if you are a 1% sports punter on skybet they 'flick the switch' to make sure you don't win too much on poker.   Sounds crazy but given how soft the site is my mtt graph shouldn't look how it does shape wise.   First big win mtt wise alarms bells go off at , 1% sports betting account viewed and you suddenly break even for the next 9 months in games that are impossible to break even in against the lolregs.  Going to let the dust settle and try my theory on a 100% clean skybet/poker account previously unused and see if the account runs closer to ev than the previous one did. 

Casually dropping in the intention to Multi Account on a poker site Tikay works for, ballsy/moronic move just like most of this post.

Agree with Teddyboat, haven't touched party since they made the cash game changes.

Where did i say anything about multi accounting?   Once i start using a new account obviously i won't be playing on the old one otherwise it defeats the object of trying an unrestricted skybet account to play poker on. 

Could be wrong, but not sure you can open a new account to play on, because you think yours is rigged.
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« Reply #37 on: September 12, 2019, 03:37:15 PM »

Rigged accounts ? You will be telling me next, that those lads that all play poker in the same room look at each others screens next.
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« Reply #38 on: September 12, 2019, 03:41:52 PM »

Local cash only for me at weekends when the games are still soft enough to have a good laugh with the regs and win a few quid.  No banter in a live game now and i just leave no matter how profitable it is.  Dabbled on sky poker now and again late at night once the evening dogs have finished to relax and won a few quid over the last year or so but not totally convinced if you are a 1% sports punter on skybet they 'flick the switch' to make sure you don't win too much on poker.   Sounds crazy but given how soft the site is my mtt graph shouldn't look how it does shape wise.   First big win mtt wise alarms bells go off at , 1% sports betting account viewed and you suddenly break even for the next 9 months in games that are impossible to break even in against the lolregs.  Going to let the dust settle and try my theory on a 100% clean skybet/poker account previously unused and see if the account runs closer to ev than the previous one did.  

Casually dropping in the intention to Multi Account on a poker site Tikay works for, ballsy/moronic move just like most of this post.

Agree with Teddyboat, haven't touched party since they made the cash game changes.

Where did i say anything about multi accounting?   Once i start using a new account obviously i won't be playing on the old one otherwise it defeats the object of trying an unrestricted skybet account to play poker on.  

Could be wrong, but not sure you can open a new account to play on, because you think yours is rigged.

The recently departed CEO of skybet told a fellow blonde poster in person when he met Flint that he thought nobody has more than one skybet account and the millions of accounts they keep opening are all from new original customers.   He was truly shocked when he got told that hundreds of previously closed pro punters probably have been through 3 figures of 'new' skybet accounts in various different names.   Not entirely sure what the difference is between having someone put on for me on their skybet account or me playing poker on their account.   I haven't done this lightly.  It isn't even a huge amount of money and i am still winning since the account opened.  i have collected a substantially amount of data (manually obviously) over the past 9 months to back up my 'comedy' claims and i wouldn't be doing this if it wasn't pretty conclusive and damning the results of the data.

Playing 20-100 runner low stakes bounty hunter 'mtts' (they are more like stts) against sky's client base at that level it is literally impossible to break even over the sample size i have in the past 10 months.   Low stakes bounty hunter 'stts' have tiny variance compared to huge field mtts.     I am not the only 1% account to have similar views/thoughts on this either and several other people i know changed to a clean account.

As other posters have said anyone that trusts any form of online poker and just throws out any claims is being naive given the amount of scandals that have been involved in online poker.   There are 'teams' of people playing skypoker cash games and chopping up profits/sharing hand info on whats app.   I know this for a fact because i have sat in the same room watching them.  They are skilled at making it look as discrete as possible but the level of bum hunting at the bigger skypoker cash games is truly comedy to watch.  This is no different to any other poker site.  When people say online 'poker' is bent it can mean numerous different ways the deck is stacked against you and IMO in 2019 given the distain poker sites hold for winning players with stars abuse of their old VIP scheme nothing should be readily discounted as impossible.

I would have zero problem never playing online poker again but once or twice a week i do enjoy it late at night to relax and tiny stakes but even then i am not stupid enough to know when i am having my pants taken down.   I have been in the game long enough (both sides of the fence) to smell a rat and when something isn't right, then conduct manual research myself to back my initial views up.   I might be wrong and it might just be a freak one off but there is no harm in trying something diifferent just like skybet like to try something different (ie close accounts) when they smell a rat and think something is wrong.

Don't forget ten years ago i was swimming against the tide against the 'solid' one.
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« Reply #39 on: September 12, 2019, 05:00:44 PM »

Tikay could this be Clock123 ? 😂😂
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« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2019, 05:26:53 PM »

It is a bit rich that you are pointing fingers whilst restarting on a poker site under a fresh name.   
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« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2019, 10:16:22 PM »

It makes the site substantially less safe and makes a new level of unfairness between fair players and those that cheat.

Also all anyone can do is to take party's word on detection as the player pool has zero way of detecting bots and collusion.

Again, even on stars where detection is first rate the players have done a substantial amount of policing.

It's simply a site I wouldnt touch, sorry

People talk about cheating in online poker, but its also thing in live poker too. Another reason I have pretty much given up playing cards now.

There are cliques out there, mostly, in fact pretty much all, are groups of young lads. Found out lately they speak to each other and give signals to each other in many different ways. The latest is they text each other, without the player in the hand looking at his phone, but knowing that's a signal to call.

But also I am pretty critical of people here - There are still plenty of decent and funny folk you're happy to play cards with. Not everyone is out there to go through your pockets, etc. 

If you are still around Sheffield, there is a nice early cash game on Monday's starting at 7pm at Nap's Owlerton. They will throw in a free meal from the restaurant. Usually a couple of players wanting to donate. Means I can be away by midnight and get some sleep.

Mon/Tues/Wed starting around 11pm there are two decent sized 5/5/10 games if you have deep pockets and are willing to stay until 5am.
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« Reply #42 on: September 14, 2019, 12:41:22 AM »

It makes the site substantially less safe and makes a new level of unfairness between fair players and those that cheat.

Also all anyone can do is to take party's word on detection as the player pool has zero way of detecting bots and collusion.

Again, even on stars where detection is first rate the players have done a substantial amount of policing.

It's simply a site I wouldnt touch, sorry

People talk about cheating in online poker, but its also thing in live poker too. Another reason I have pretty much given up playing cards now.

There are cliques out there, mostly, in fact pretty much all, are groups of young lads. Found out lately they speak to each other and give signals to each other in many different ways. The latest is they text each other, without the player in the hand looking at his phone, but knowing that's a signal to call.

But also I am pretty critical of people here - There are still plenty of decent and funny folk you're happy to play cards with. Not everyone is out there to go through your pockets, etc. 

If you are still around Sheffield, there is a nice early cash game on Monday's starting at 7pm at Nap's Owlerton. They will throw in a free meal from the restaurant. Usually a couple of players wanting to donate. Means I can be away by midnight and get some sleep.

Mon/Tues/Wed starting around 11pm there are two decent sized 5/5/10 games if you have deep pockets and are willing to stay until 5am.

Yeah I'm still in Sheffield, will look into this, thank you

Probably come out on a Thursday soon, only knew it changed to Thursday from Wed last week!
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« Reply #43 on: September 14, 2019, 05:41:37 PM »

It makes the site substantially less safe and makes a new level of unfairness between fair players and those that cheat.

Also all anyone can do is to take party's word on detection as the player pool has zero way of detecting bots and collusion.

Again, even on stars where detection is first rate the players have done a substantial amount of policing.

It's simply a site I wouldnt touch, sorry

People talk about cheating in online poker, but its also thing in live poker too. Another reason I have pretty much given up playing cards now.

There are cliques out there, mostly, in fact pretty much all, are groups of young lads. Found out lately they speak to each other and give signals to each other in many different ways. The latest is they text each other, without the player in the hand looking at his phone, but knowing that's a signal to call.

But also I am pretty critical of people here - There are still plenty of decent and funny folk you're happy to play cards with. Not everyone is out there to go through your pockets, etc. 

If you are still around Sheffield, there is a nice early cash game on Monday's starting at 7pm at Nap's Owlerton. They will throw in a free meal from the restaurant. Usually a couple of players wanting to donate. Means I can be away by midnight and get some sleep.

Mon/Tues/Wed starting around 11pm there are two decent sized 5/5/10 games if you have deep pockets and are willing to stay until 5am.

Yeah I'm still in Sheffield, will look into this, thank you

Probably come out on a Thursday soon, only knew it changed to Thursday from Wed last week!

Tom Jones organised and runs the early game for Kaz.

Message him on Facebook if you want a seat.

Yep, Genting £8k is on a Thursday now. Play it occasionally these days.
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