Citeh vs LFC a question for the 'neutrals'

[pleno1]

Don't think he's saying Colo is the best CB more that he is playing the best. Vermaelen been injured and shuffled around the defence but good in patches, Vidic has hardly played this season and Kompany is obv great but he's been sent of twice this season already. He thinks Colo is in the best form. Maybe the others can raise their above him but pleno doesn't think they have at the moment.

Vermaelen's been excellent. It's no surprise the minute he was fit we looked a different side at the back. He's an incredibly dominating centre-back who offers a lot on the ball and is a ridiculous threat going forward given his position.

Vidic is injured at the moment sure, but he's a world class centre back who would walk into any side in the world when fit.

Kompany's brilliant. You can ignore the red card vs Liverpool as it wasn't one. Either way he's absolutely superb.

I see where you're coming from, but if that's what Pleno means (and I don't think he does) then what time-scale is he basing Collocini's form on?

Last 12 months.

[Solaris]

i sort of agree with pads although its all obviously subjective.

I think there is an amount of top team bias from you lot, best player in the top teams is always going to look standout better.

You either agree or you don't. It's not that hard.

Are Krul, Collocini and Ba the best players in the league in their respective positions?

Yes or no?

[ACE2M]

i sort of agree with pads although its all obviously subjective.

I think there is an amount of top team bias from you lot, best player in the top teams is always going to look standout better.

You either agree or you don't. It's not that hard.

Are Krul, Collocini and Ba the best players in the league in their respective positions?

Yes or no?

Debateable

Krul doesn't get the same protection as Hart but has been a great shot stopper and totally rock solid from set pieces etc - would like to look up opta stats on shots on their respective golas etc
Collicini is the big doubt for me in pads thinking, i think vermalen is the best CB in the world - but based on the seasons they are having its prob Kompany
Ba doesn't get anything like the service that RVP gets but he's got almost as good a record. Again trawling some opta stats would be good. Wish we'd signed him, i'm sure that dodgy knee will flare up soon...

[gatso]

i sort of agree with pads although its all obviously subjective.

I think there is an amount of top team bias from you lot, best player in the top teams is always going to look standout better.

You either agree or you don't. It's not that hard.

Are Krul, Collocini and Ba the best players in the league in their respective positions?

Yes or no?

Debateable

Krul doesn't get the same protection as Hart but has been a great shot stopper and totally rock solid from set pieces etc - would like to look up opta stats on shots on their respective golas etc
Collicini is the big doubt for me in pads thinking, i think vermalen is the best CB in the world - but based on the seasons they are having its prob Kompany
Ba doesn't get anything like the service that RVP gets but he's got almost as good a record. Again trawling some opta stats would be good. Wish we'd signed him, i'm sure that dodgy knee will flare up soon...

but he's got the best defence in the country in front of him

[bobby1]

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Hi ACE,

When I first saw this I thought it must have been tampered with to make it look that amazing.

[pleno1]

And I also think that its debatable that Vidic is better than Collocini,

Need anyone say anymore? 

That's one hell of a quote for us all to remember.

I really don't. You obviously havn't seen Collocini play reguarly. As you have already admitted in the thread, I have and I have seen plenty of Vidic so please bore off. Watch us play QPR tonight if you like, I'm sure Colo will get another MOM.

[Solaris]

And I also think that its debatable that Vidic is better than Collocini,

Need anyone say anymore? 

That's one hell of a quote for us all to remember.

I really don't. You obviously havn't seen Collocini play reguarly. As you have already admitted in the thread, I have and I have seen plenty of Vidic so please bore off. Watch us play QPR tonight if you like, I'm sure Colo will get another MOM.

Please quote me on where I said that.

When you fail to find the post, because it doesn't exist, I would love an apology for you making up a complete lie in order to try and aid your argument.

Best of luck on the search.

[maldini32]

as a football socut and an opinion i respect, what exactly do you disagree with?

Has Colocinni really been the best DEF in the country this season?  Better than Kompany?  I can't disagree to the point of an argument over it as I don't see enough Prem games or Newcastle games.   

Is Ben Arfa really the most talented player in the Prem, even when he gets 100% fit?  I think if I asked 10 random football fans not one would have him in their top 5.  He may prove to be decent of course, but done diddly squat so far, injury being the reason of course.

The meanest defence?  Have I read the table wrong or do you have like the 6/7th best defence?

Tiote/Cabaye are the 'best cen mid pairing' in the Prem?  Better than Toure & Silva? 

Krul has had a great season as is probably the most improved keeper, but is he better than Reina/Hart?

All imo

One scout to another thanks for writing all that, agree agree agree.

[TheChipPrince]

as a football socut and an opinion i respect, what exactly do you disagree with?

Has Colocinni really been the best DEF in the country this season?  Better than Kompany?  I can't disagree to the point of an argument over it as I don't see enough Prem games or Newcastle games.   

Is Ben Arfa really the most talented player in the Prem, even when he gets 100% fit?  I think if I asked 10 random football fans not one would have him in their top 5.  He may prove to be decent of course, but done diddly squat so far, injury being the reason of course.

The meanest defence?  Have I read the table wrong or do you have like the 6/7th best defence?

Tiote/Cabaye are the 'best cen mid pairing' in the Prem?  Better than Toure & Silva? 

Krul has had a great season as is probably the most improved keeper, but is he better than Reina/Hart?

All imo

One scout to another thanks for writing all that, agree agree agree.

lol, hows it going so far?

shoot, just remembered you asked me for those templates a couple of months back, PM me if you still need anything

[maldini32]

as a football socut and an opinion i respect, what exactly do you disagree with?

Has Colocinni really been the best DEF in the country this season?  Better than Kompany?  I can't disagree to the point of an argument over it as I don't see enough Prem games or Newcastle games.   

Is Ben Arfa really the most talented player in the Prem, even when he gets 100% fit?  I think if I asked 10 random football fans not one would have him in their top 5.  He may prove to be decent of course, but done diddly squat so far, injury being the reason of course.

The meanest defence?  Have I read the table wrong or do you have like the 6/7th best defence?

Tiote/Cabaye are the 'best cen mid pairing' in the Prem?  Better than Toure & Silva? 

Krul has had a great season as is probably the most improved keeper, but is he better than Reina/Hart?

All imo

One scout to another thanks for writing all that, agree agree agree.

lol, hows it going so far?

shoot, just remembered you asked me for those templates a couple of months back, PM me if you still need anything

Nah mate its all good. The templates were for a friend.

Its going alright apart from its fuckin freezin!

Still looking for the future Johnson et al.

[redsimon]

And I also think that its debatable that Vidic is better than Collocini,

Need anyone say anymore? 

That's one hell of a quote for us all to remember.

I really don't. You obviously havn't seen Collocini play reguarly. As you have already admitted in the thread, I have and I have seen plenty of Vidic so please bore off. Watch us play QPR tonight if you like, I'm sure Colo will get another MOM.

sure playing tonight.

how are you seeing so many newcastle games anyway, aren't you in Spain?

[AndrewT]

At first I did fear for QPR on Sunday when I read this, but then I remembered we managed a 0-0 draw with Newcastle earlier in the season, which I think makes us better than Barcelona, so we should be OK.

[pleno1]

Ha yeh I meant Sunday

Internet mate, stream every Newcastle game and theres a bar in Gib that shows every single Newcastle match on big screens etc.

[pleno1]

At first I did fear for QPR on Sunday when I read this, but then I remembered we managed a 0-0 draw with Newcastle earlier in the season, which I think makes us better than Barcelona, so we should be OK.

New manager/player hype ting. Still managed to keep a clean sheet whilst our star striker was on ramadan. You did manage to get beat off Wigan though which I guess makes you the worst team in the prem.

#RejectsRangers

[mulhuzz]

end the debate right now.

Krul not the best, concerns about his kicking from open play, but he willl be very, very good and is already better than Reina. Hart still the man to beat in that position though Krul not very far behind and already light years ahead of Cech and De Gea.

Colo. He's the love of my life, I'd let him shag my wife, I wish I had curly hair too. On form, the best defender in England bar absolutely none. I've never seen Vermaelen or Kompany put the best strikers in his back pocket as often as Colo has this season. If you disagree, you're not watching us enough. Or you're a Citeh/Arsenal fan. Once Vidic is fit again I'm certain he'll come back to be number 1 in this position quickly.

Ba. Great goalscorer, has a lot to offer the team, will be a miss. Goals make a striker though, which I guess makes him the second best striker in England at the moment, behind the one man of Arsenal's one man team, RVP.

Tiote and Cabaye are fantastic. Cabaye is missing a sharpness against the bigger boys, but I'd take either of them over Chelsea's mid, Gareth Barry's best years are 90 years ago, etc.

It's all about perspective. We need a new right back (imo) because Danny S, for all his last ditch defending which has been great is too likely to cause a calamity.

We also suffer from small squad syndrome which cost us against WBA and Norwich, but that's part of the thrill of watching NUFC. Tank the big teams and then get held 0-0 by Swansea at home in the most frustrating game ever. #upsanddownsofthetoon