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« Reply #44220 on: June 27, 2013, 11:41:03 AM »

The Halep match has just started on BBC interactive.
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« Reply #44221 on: June 27, 2013, 11:51:51 AM »

Li Na has started in great form but has just had the first slip of the day.
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« Reply #44222 on: June 27, 2013, 12:42:03 PM »

Halep looked in trouble, called on the trainer after the first set

then raced through the second set to go into a decider with the momentum...
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« Reply #44223 on: June 27, 2013, 01:07:38 PM »

Halep looked in trouble, called on the trainer after the first set

then raced through the second set to go into a decider with the momentum...

... then lost the 3rd set 6-0. Sad
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« Reply #44224 on: June 27, 2013, 01:30:54 PM »

Seven races into the 2013 Formula One season and already double World Champion Sebastian Vettel is building a nice lead at the head of the drivers championship. This weekend, Silverstone for the British Grand Prix. Can anyone stop Vettel from adding to his lead?

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Mark Webber British Grand Prix 10/1 each way with Sporting Bet/Stan James

Formula 1 arrives at Silverstone this week for the British Grand Prix at an important juncture in the World Championship battle.

In Canada three weeks ago, Sebastian Vettel won his third race of the season to go 36 points clear of Alonso and the pack in the chase for another World Drivers Championship. Vettel  has finished every race this year, only twice not been on the podium, and never been lower than fourth.

Red Bull have won three of the last four British Grand Prix in the usual varying weather conditions that this event provides and crucially Silverstone is a track that suits the Red Bull like few others. Under pre-eminent car designer Adrian Newey Red Bull has had an aerodynamic advantage over the field for several years and Silverstone, with its long sweeping fast corners is perfect for the Red Bull, which isn't the fastest car in a straight line but corners like no other Formula One car.

Wet or dry, it is hard to look past three men as the most likely winners on Sunday. The two Red Bull drivers, Vettel and Webber and Fernando Alonso, who won at Silverstone on the only one of the last four occasions not won by a Red Bull.

The hope for Alonso and others is that the fast corners that the Red Bull thrives on might also be its downfall this year under the new Pirelli tyre regime that makes they tyres barely stable. Red Bull have proven harder on their tyres than Ferrari and Lotus and the load through these fast corners provides a different challenge, under this tyre regimen, than in prior years.

Looking at the rest of the field, The Lotus beings a big upgrade package to Silverstone, and is very easy on its tyres. However it has much to prove with disappointing results recently and a lack of pace.

At Mercedes, they face a re-occurrence of a familiar recent pattern of of qualifying at the front and slipping backwards in the race due to a car design and aerodynamic flaws that makes them very tough on tyres.

 On form and precedent, this sort of track is exactly the opposite of what Mercedes require , because the car eats up its rear tyres.  One team insider admitted in Canada that he was "bricking himself" about the race for that reason, so it seems fair to suggest that Hamilton and Nico Rosberg can expect more of the same and exclude them from considerations for betting purposes this weekend.

Looking at current prices for the race winner we see

http://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-one/british-grand-prix/winner

Sebastian Vettel 7/4

Fernando Alonso 11/4

Lewis Hamilton 7/1

Kimi Raikkonen 8/1

Mark Webber 10/1

Nico Rosberg 10/1

We know Vettel is representing a very strong package. The bookies know it too, and it is priced in. We know Alonso is his biggest threat. The interesting opportunity, and price, lies with Mark Webber

Webber has won two of the last four British Grand Prix. When push comes to shove, we know that the Red Bull team favours Vettel, and that is reflected in the price. At each way terms of 1/5 the odds for a posium place (top three finish) Webber is excellent value. He is in the best car for the circuit, he loves racing there and the team showed evidcen in Canada that it is overcoming tyre problems

Webber at 10/1 is far better value than either Mercedes driver at the odds, or Raikkonen ahead of the evidence of the upgrades

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Mark Webber British Grand Prix 10/1 each way with Sporting Bet/Stan James

This is for small stakes please, say £10 ew because

- FI has many variables randomising especially at the British Grand Prix

weather
qualifying risk
tyres
for Webber, team orders risk

It is interesting that i you look at the podium finish market

http://www.oddschecker.com/motorsport/formula-one/british-grand-prix/podium-finish

the best you can get is 8/5, not the 2/1 you get by ew 1/5 for the winner.

Realistically something has to go wrong with Vettel for Webber to win, but I do think 10-1 understates the likelihood of a podium finish


http://www.jamesallenonf1.com/2013/06/why-are-red-bull-so-strong-at-silverstone/

I've delayed too long on this.
Only SportingBet now have 10/1 and they do not offer each-way terms.
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« Reply #44225 on: June 27, 2013, 01:58:34 PM »

Disappointing. Don't take less than 10/1 though. I want 2/1 the podium
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« Reply #44226 on: June 27, 2013, 02:03:29 PM »

Will 10/1 become available if he qualifies in 5/6th? Do you take it if it does?
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« Reply #44227 on: June 27, 2013, 02:07:15 PM »

Will 10/1 become available if he qualifies in 5/6th? Do you take it if it does?

No car in the last ten years has won from lower back than 4th, and that includes all sorts of changeable weather races

You'd expect the Mercs to take up two of the front four spots (qualifying pace) and probably not be able to win it on a tyre limited track, so lets say you have to be front three rows here to realistically podium, as structurally its different this year compared to any other

So if Webber qualifies top 6 and the price goes out, yes

the top six should be both red bulls, both mercedes,alonso and then massa/raikkonen

unless weather intervenes
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« Reply #44228 on: June 27, 2013, 03:09:34 PM »

If you bet @9-1 with vc you get 1/4 the odds each way so you get 9/4 the podium.

On betfair it's about 9-1 Webber to win, whilst you can lay 2.66 the podium.

9/1 ew seems fine to me.
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« Reply #44229 on: June 27, 2013, 03:23:00 PM »

15 sixes in the first T20i (NZ 8 Eng 7).
Line for this evening is 11.5

I think the commentators thought that the same pitch would be used today. So a "tired" pitch but still a short boundary.
Two sides with stronger batting and KP playing?
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« Reply #44230 on: June 27, 2013, 03:24:52 PM »

15 sixes in the first T20i (NZ 8 Eng 7).
Line for this evening is 11.5

I think the commentators thought that the same pitch would be used today. So a "tired" pitch but still a short boundary.
Two sides with stronger batting and KP playing?

Same pitch is correct

Slightly less bouncy with a roller on it between games, but I don't see a reason it shouldn't be 180+ batting first
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« Reply #44231 on: June 27, 2013, 03:26:02 PM »

If you bet @9-1 with vc you get 1/4 the odds each way so you get 9/4 the podium.

On betfair it's about 9-1 Webber to win, whilst you can lay 2.66 the podium.

9/1 ew seems fine to me.

thanks, thought everyone was 1/5 the odds so that is useful
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« Reply #44232 on: June 27, 2013, 07:39:38 PM »

Mere/tennis fans

Much like the mens one half of the Wimbledon draw has been decimated, seeds wise, for the Ladies

If you had to pick a name who would play Serena in the final from the other half of the draw, to back each way, who would you point me towards?

   Puig (Pur)    v    Birnerova (Cze)    
17    Stephens (US)    v    Cetkovska (Cze)    
15    Bartoli (Fra)    v    Giorgi (Ita)    
   Knapp (Ita)    v    Larcher De Brito (Por)    
8    Kvitova (Cze)    v    Makarova (Rus)    25
19    Suarez Navarro (Spa)    v    Bouchard (Can)    
   Dolonc (Ser)    v    Flipkens (Bel)    20
29    Cornet (Fra)    v    Pennetta (Ita)

is the bottom half

these are the prices

http://www.oddschecker.com/tennis/wimbledon/womens/womens-wimbledon/winner

My interest here is the shortest price, Kvitova, in that half is 14-1 so you are getting nearly 3-1+ (1/3 odds 1/2) any player to win that half...irrespective of what Serena does

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« Reply #44233 on: June 27, 2013, 10:31:54 PM »

Think I'd much rather have Makarova @ 150s ew with Sporting Bet than Kvitova @ 14s considering they are 5/6, 11/10 tomorrow. Plus Kvitova is spraying errors all over the place atm.

A mention for Flipkens at 200s too, not without a chance of making the semis.
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« Reply #44234 on: June 27, 2013, 10:38:03 PM »

Thanks. I was just saying kvitova is favourite in that half and still 14s. There must be value in an outsider here. Might get 50-1+ one of these to make the final....
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