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[Bad Beat]

 Bit behind on Fred and probably a bit late now but I did hear that Mount Belbulben had a terrible journey over having been rerouted via Scotland (on Monday I think). If it wasn't for that I'd have really liked it. Not a Cue Card fan (ground/trip/stable), think that Dynaste is way too short, would rather back Al Feof for the Gold Cup than the King George at current prices and could be tempted by Long Run each-way tomorrow.

 Happy Christmas to all Fred followers and thanks to those who contribute so much.

[Doobs]

I don't know who put it up, but Hayley Tamaddon up for Dancing on Ice, but she is 4/1 only with Betfair Sportsbook right now.  Presumably they are all sleeping so those that haven't can get on now.

[Doobs]

Bit behind on Fred and probably a bit late now but I did hear that Mount Belbulben had a terrible journey over having been rerouted via Scotland (on Monday I think). If it wasn't for that I'd have really liked it. Not a Cue Card fan (ground/trip/stable), think that Dynaste is way too short, would rather back Al Feof for the Gold Cup than the King George at current prices and could be tempted by Long Run each-way tomorrow.

 Happy Christmas to all Fred followers and thanks to those who contribute so much.

Ha, I love Long Run, was so reliable until this year.  Toyed with backing that too.  Guess I am going to have to back him again.  He's on his last chance.

Merry Christmas Neil and all.

[aaron1867]

MTOYT is IMO not a bet. Followed this horse so much & always questionable on soft/heavy ground, always something AP picked up upon, think New One is a better bet.

How can it not be a bet?  You have two horses around evens and the rest hopeless.  It must be long odds on it finishes 1st or 2nd.   So 80% of the time we either double or get money back. 

Both him and The New One have been beat on heavy, so don't think it can be ideal for either. 

Just back one of them, doesn't matter which one, either is as good a bet as you could hope for. 

It's definitely a 2 horse race for sure.

But I've seen MTOYT on soft and it jist struggles, whilst being a comfortable favourite. By the looks of things, it will be heavy, not soft, if you've ever listened to AP when talking about MTOYT, he always questions whether it will win & always talks about it being vulnerable on soft/heavy. At such a short price under conditions, I'm happy to go for the other.

These are thoughts of course.

In other news WH go 4/1 on the favourites in the Al Ferof race, we already have 4's but for those looking to back Cue Card.

[Marky147]

In the Sporting Life, he said that he didn't think soft ground would effect MTOY any more than it would The New One.


Looking at their history, they've both won on soft anyway...

[Doobs]

MTOYT is IMO not a bet. Followed this horse so much & always questionable on soft/heavy ground, always something AP picked up upon, think New One is a better bet.

How can it not be a bet?  You have two horses around evens and the rest hopeless.  It must be long odds on it finishes 1st or 2nd.   So 80% of the time we either double or get money back. 

Both him and The New One have been beat on heavy, so don't think it can be ideal for either. 

Just back one of them, doesn't matter which one, either is as good a bet as you could hope for. 

It's definitely a 2 horse race for sure.

But I've seen MTOYT on soft and it jist struggles, whilst being a comfortable favourite. By the looks of things, it will be heavy, not soft, if you've ever listened to AP when talking about MTOYT, he always questions whether it will win & always talks about it being vulnerable on soft/heavy. At such a short price under conditions, I'm happy to go for the other.

These are thoughts of course.

In other news WH go 4/1 on the favourites in the Al Ferof race, we already have 4's but for those looking to back Cue Card.

When are they going 4/1?  It isn't there now.  #backinghalfthefield

[aaron1867]

Yeah they've both won on soft, but also both struggled on soft a lot more than they should. I've been a constant backer of MTOYT & its such a frustrating watch on softer ground. Think its first time at Kempton too.

From half 8 the 4/1, but think there aren't much between the prices now anyway!

[Tal]

Seems almost certain Bairstow takes the gloves from Prior. Slip cordon also heavily affected by the loss of Swann. Bairstow was described the other day by a former captain as not even in the best six wicket keepers in England.

Points, surely, to Monty Panesar as top wicket taker in England. 6/1 with Sid James, 9/2 ladbrokes and 4/1 with everyone else.

As for the bat, the market looks to my ice cream eyes to be weighted to the notion we are going to bat competitively in this test match. We are very short on form and grit, right now. Boxing Day test at the MCG in front of three times as many as at Lord's. Stokes is 10/1 with Laddies. Bresnan is 33/1 generally for the situation where England don't show anything new to the performances we have seen so far down under.

The England fan in me wants us to win the toss. The punter wants Cook to continue his run.

[Tal]

Australia win the toss...and bowl.

That is brave.

Or at least it would be, were Australia not 3-0 up.

[Doobs]

Seems almost certain Bairstow takes the gloves from Prior. Slip cordon also heavily affected by the loss of Swann. Bairstow was described the other day by a former captain as not even in the best six wicket keepers in England.

Points, surely, to Monty Panesar as top wicket taker in England. 6/1 with Sid James, 9/2 ladbrokes and 4/1 with everyone else.

As for the bat, the market looks to my ice cream eyes to be weighted to the notion we are going to bat competitively in this test match. We are very short on form and grit, right now. Boxing Day test at the MCG in front of three times as many as at Lord's. Stokes is 10/1 with Laddies. Bresnan is 33/1 generally for the situation where England don't show anything new to the performances we have seen so far down under.

The England fan in me wants us to win the toss. The punter wants Cook to continue his run.

Think some are Top England Bowler in the match, Sid's price was in the 1st innings only.  Would love 6/1 for the match, not so sure about 1st innings only.

[Tal]

Seems almost certain Bairstow takes the gloves from Prior. Slip cordon also heavily affected by the loss of Swann. Bairstow was described the other day by a former captain as not even in the best six wicket keepers in England.

Points, surely, to Monty Panesar as top wicket taker in England. 6/1 with Sid James, 9/2 ladbrokes and 4/1 with everyone else.

As for the bat, the market looks to my ice cream eyes to be weighted to the notion we are going to bat competitively in this test match. We are very short on form and grit, right now. Boxing Day test at the MCG in front of three times as many as at Lord's. Stokes is 10/1 with Laddies. Bresnan is 33/1 generally for the situation where England don't show anything new to the performances we have seen so far down under.

The England fan in me wants us to win the toss. The punter wants Cook to continue his run.

Think some are Top England Bowler in the match, Sid's price was in the 1st innings only.  Would love 6/1 for the match, not so sure about 1st innings only.

Good job you're here. Again.

Was doing the oddschecker jig while scouring the net for rumoured team news. Drop in pitches aren't supposed to be Bunsens, so not sure the difference will be all that pronounced by day 4 or 5. Nevertheless, would want the second innings included for the money.

[Snowball]

I hope these mbs are on for the NBA?

[Tal]

Sky bet will offer you prices on any of the players in the squad scoring highest for England in the first innings apart from Bresnan. Headscratcher.

[Doobs]

Seems almost certain Bairstow takes the gloves from Prior. Slip cordon also heavily affected by the loss of Swann. Bairstow was described the other day by a former captain as not even in the best six wicket keepers in England.

Points, surely, to Monty Panesar as top wicket taker in England. 6/1 with Sid James, 9/2 ladbrokes and 4/1 with everyone else.

As for the bat, the market looks to my ice cream eyes to be weighted to the notion we are going to bat competitively in this test match. We are very short on form and grit, right now. Boxing Day test at the MCG in front of three times as many as at Lord's. Stokes is 10/1 with Laddies. Bresnan is 33/1 generally for the situation where England don't show anything new to the performances we have seen so far down under.

The England fan in me wants us to win the toss. The punter wants Cook to continue his run.

Think some are Top England Bowler in the match, Sid's price was in the 1st innings only.  Would love 6/1 for the match, not so sure about 1st innings only.

Good job you're here. Again.

Was doing the oddschecker jig while scouring the net for rumoured team news. Drop in pitches aren't supposed to be Bunsens, so not sure the difference will be all that pronounced by day 4 or 5. Nevertheless, would want the second innings included for the money.

Of course, bet gets better if we bowl 2nd.  If we can bat for 2 days, 6/1 would look fantastic.  Maybe not so good if we are bowling at 3pm on day 1.

[BigAdz]

Yeah they've both won on soft, but also both struggled on soft a lot more than they should. I've been a constant backer of MTOYT & its such a frustrating watch on softer ground. Think its first time at Kempton too.

From half 8 the 4/1, but think there aren't much between the prices now anyway!

Sorry aaron, but got to laugh at this. You say he is a frustrating watch on soft. Yes I was frustrated when he got beat half a length by Champagne Fever at Chelts. I was also frustrated when McCoy lost on him at Newbury to Chatterbox, when McCoy played it way too safe. But he was 4/11 that day and with the doubts about the ground, you had to be mad to back him.

I also  backed him the other 5 times he has run over hurdles and has won them all, including one of my biggest wins of last year when he won the Betfair like a good thing on rather soft ground.

By Crikey, he is frustrating........