Tips for Tikay

[tikay]

M poker room shutdown last year I believe. I took a trip up there a couple of years back to have a look around and play a couple of hours collect a chip for my collection (yes I am that sad) but there was no game running late afternoon. Really nice casino though, as you would expect for a vegas property so relatively new.

Saddo.

I've got a chip from Grosvenor Great Yarmouth you can have, prized exhibit that.

[Karabiner]

M poker room shutdown last year I believe. I took a trip up there a couple of years back to have a look around and play a couple of hours collect a chip for my collection (yes I am that sad) but there was no game running late afternoon. Really nice casino though, as you would expect for a vegas property so relatively new.

Saddo.

I've got a chip from Grosvenor Great Yarmouth you can have, prized exhibit that.

I've still got a blonde one from the Waterford festival.

I'll never forget that €1/2 cash-game that you, Compo and I played where at one point three of you had one card stuck to your foreheads "Indian Poker" stylee.

[tikay]

M poker room shutdown last year I believe. I took a trip up there a couple of years back to have a look around and play a couple of hours collect a chip for my collection (yes I am that sad) but there was no game running late afternoon. Really nice casino though, as you would expect for a vegas property so relatively new.

Saddo.

I've got a chip from Grosvenor Great Yarmouth you can have, prized exhibit that.

I've still got a blonde one from the Waterford festival.

I'll never forget that €1/2 cash-game that you Compo and I played where at one point three of you had one card stuck to your foreheads "Indian Poker" stylee.

Yup, we played No Lookee, & also stuck one card on our bonce so everyone but us could see it.

Think I lost about €800 in the game. I was sat next to Dennis O'Mahoney, who was taking it seriously. Can't understand why he is a millionaire, & I'm on my arse.

The Pig Farmer lady was present, too, as I recall, my oh my, money everywhere.

Great weekend, except for being a passenger when dear Brendan was driving us back to the hotel, one hand on the steering wheel & 4 wheel drifting corners, eek. *

* For those unaware, Brendan (Eric Stoner on blonde) was not able-bodied, think he only had the use of one hand, but he was a character & a half. Sadly, he passed away the following year. Much missed, as is the AWOL Compo.     

[Kmac84]

Probably not the place for this discussion but I always liked Compo on tv, unlike some on here I never ever knew him personally but I often wonder what drove the likes of him, Dougie Fraser and Peter Monteith etc to do what they did. 

2 were involved in the commentary/journalistic side of things and one was a trainer.  They should know the pitfalls of gambling more than most but what drives them to get so deeply involved. 

You get all these experts who lead punters a merry dance but half of them looked dishelved and incapable of making any profit.  I look at shows like ATR and I think to myself you either at it and mugging the punters off or your putting on a good show and making yourself look destitute so you can get a bet on as the books thing your a mug. 

I read somewhere previously that these experts are picking up £500 + per day, one would think that with that income and the contacts they make in the industry they should be able to properly manage a bank roll to land a few quid and get it quietly. 

[BigAdz]

What prompted that Kmac?

[the sicilian]

I really don't see the point in Paddy Power.. they spend millions on advertising etc yet restrict you at the slightest.. ive had maybe a dozen bets with them..broke probably even which for me is a massive win..no bet more than £75 usually £50..yet the last 3 have been resticted to no more than £25..

Whats the point Paddy ? either your a bookmaker or your some shifty bloke who makes a book in the pub who doesnt want to risk losing more than 25 quid..whats it to be ?

[Kmac84]

What prompted that Kmac?

Just Tikay's mention of Compo.  I just find it all very strange. 

Peter Monteith I totally missed I was chatting to a customer of mine last week who was going telling me about how he is planning a company day out at Perth and I happened to mention I used to keep an eye out at that track for Peter's horses and he told me he had taken his own life.  I was actually shocked at that. 

[BigAdz]

What prompted that Kmac?

Just Tikay's mention of Compo.  I just find it all very strange. 

Peter Monteith I totally missed I was chatting to a customer of mine last week who was going telling me about how he is planning a company day out at Perth and I happened to mention I used to keep an eye out at that track for Peter's horses and he told me he had taken his own life.  I was actually shocked at that. 

Is he dead then? Genuinely never knew that.

[tikay]

What prompted that Kmac?

Just Tikay's mention of Compo.  I just find it all very strange. 

Peter Monteith I totally missed I was chatting to a customer of mine last week who was going telling me about how he is planning a company day out at Perth and I happened to mention I used to keep an eye out at that track for Peter's horses and he told me he had taken his own life.  I was actually shocked at that. 

Is he dead then? Genuinely never knew that.

This article dated November 2010.

Plenty others on google, it seems.


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/p-monteith-trainer-peter-monteith-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide/791842/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

[Nakor]

Advice please - I have used the same Laddies shop for 10 years or more and have always been an loyalty account holder.
On Saturday all my bets were "referred" and as a result restricted.  I am not a big gambler in volume or stakes - I have done quite well in store in the past, and am a winner on NFL, Motor Sport and Football and a mug on horses and everything else but I would be surprised if I am up more then 2k a year, across those 10 years and most of that comes from a couple of big season long accumulators, rather then me beating them up week in week out.  I have had 3 winning weeks running but have possibly turned £100 in bets into £500 won over those 3 weeks, so nothing amazing.

I appreciate the above is just the modern way bookies are run, but I was more concerned that the shop manager was informed to tell me that "if I was caught placing a bet off account (not handing my loyalty card over) in any store I could and probably would be banned from all laddies" - Can they do this?  How could they possibly know? (when I asked she pointed at the CCTV, but said no more).

From reading Fred I always assumed I was the perfect punter, mug Trebles and accas, Heinz slips etc so this has all come as a bit of a surprise, maybe I should be providing my store Manager with cakes? - seriously, anyone ever come across this before?

[BigAdz]

What prompted that Kmac?

Just Tikay's mention of Compo.  I just find it all very strange. 

Peter Monteith I totally missed I was chatting to a customer of mine last week who was going telling me about how he is planning a company day out at Perth and I happened to mention I used to keep an eye out at that track for Peter's horses and he told me he had taken his own life.  I was actually shocked at that. 

Is he dead then? Genuinely never knew that.

This article dated November 2010.

Plenty others on google, it seems.


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/p-monteith-trainer-peter-monteith-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide/791842/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

No, i knew about Montieth, It sounds like Compo has too from Kmacs post?

[tikay]

What prompted that Kmac?

Just Tikay's mention of Compo.  I just find it all very strange. 

Peter Monteith I totally missed I was chatting to a customer of mine last week who was going telling me about how he is planning a company day out at Perth and I happened to mention I used to keep an eye out at that track for Peter's horses and he told me he had taken his own life.  I was actually shocked at that. 

Is he dead then? Genuinely never knew that.

This article dated November 2010.

Plenty others on google, it seems.


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/p-monteith-trainer-peter-monteith-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide/791842/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

No, i knew about Montieth, It sounds like Compo has too from Kmacs post?

Dear God no, I'm sure that is a misunderstanding or misread.

I've not heard from him or about him, but I'm certain he is fine. I certainly hope he is.

[BigAdz]

What prompted that Kmac?

Just Tikay's mention of Compo.  I just find it all very strange. 

Peter Monteith I totally missed I was chatting to a customer of mine last week who was going telling me about how he is planning a company day out at Perth and I happened to mention I used to keep an eye out at that track for Peter's horses and he told me he had taken his own life.  I was actually shocked at that. 

Is he dead then? Genuinely never knew that.

This article dated November 2010.

Plenty others on google, it seems.


http://www.racingpost.com/news/horse-racing/p-monteith-trainer-peter-monteith-found-dead-in-apparent-suicide/791842/#newsArchiveTabs=last7DaysNews

No, i knew about Montieth, It sounds like Compo has too from Kmacs post?

Dear God no, I'm sure that is a misunderstanding.

I've not heard from him or about him, but I'm certain he is fine. I certainly hope he is.

Exactly. I cant understand why a mention of Compo would remind you of suicide cases.

Maybe its me....!

[redarmi]

Advice please - I have used the same Laddies shop for 10 years or more and have always been an loyalty account holder.
On Saturday all my bets were "referred" and as a result restricted.  I am not a big gambler in volume or stakes - I have done quite well in store in the past, and am a winner on NFL, Motor Sport and Football and a mug on horses and everything else but I would be surprised if I am up more then 2k a year, across those 10 years and most of that comes from a couple of big season long accumulators, rather then me beating them up week in week out.  I have had 3 winning weeks running but have possibly turned £100 in bets into £500 won over those 3 weeks, so nothing amazing.

I appreciate the above is just the modern way bookies are run, but I was more concerned that the shop manager was informed to tell me that "if I was caught placing a bet off account (not handing my loyalty card over) in any store I could and probably would be banned from all laddies" - Can they do this?  How could they possibly know? (when I asked she pointed at the CCTV, but said no more).

From reading Fred I always assumed I was the perfect punter, mug Trebles and accas, Heinz slips etc so this has all come as a bit of a surprise, maybe I should be providing my store Manager with cakes? - seriously, anyone ever come across this before?

The lesson to this is never take a loyalty card from a bookie.  I have come to the conclusion in the past few weeks that most firms don't even want punters that only lose 3-4%.  If you aren't going to lose 6%+ they just don't want you.  There is a huge gap in the mnarket for a firm that would take a lot of those puntersand would be happy to keep 2-3% but do a lot of volume.  Who wants to back me in the venture?

[Omm]

Advice please - I have used the same Laddies shop for 10 years or more and have always been an loyalty account holder.
On Saturday all my bets were "referred" and as a result restricted.  I am not a big gambler in volume or stakes - I have done quite well in store in the past, and am a winner on NFL, Motor Sport and Football and a mug on horses and everything else but I would be surprised if I am up more then 2k a year, across those 10 years and most of that comes from a couple of big season long accumulators, rather then me beating them up week in week out.  I have had 3 winning weeks running but have possibly turned £100 in bets into £500 won over those 3 weeks, so nothing amazing.

I appreciate the above is just the modern way bookies are run, but I was more concerned that the shop manager was informed to tell me that "if I was caught placing a bet off account (not handing my loyalty card over) in any store I could and probably would be banned from all laddies" - Can they do this?  How could they possibly know? (when I asked she pointed at the CCTV, but said no more).

From reading Fred I always assumed I was the perfect punter, mug Trebles and accas, Heinz slips etc so this has all come as a bit of a surprise, maybe I should be providing my store Manager with cakes? - seriously, anyone ever come across this before?

The lesson to this is never take a loyalty card from a bookie.  I have come to the conclusion in the past few weeks that most firms don't even want punters that only lose 3-4%.  If you aren't going to lose 6%+ they just don't want you.  There is a huge gap in the mnarket for a firm that would take a lot of those puntersand would be happy to keep 2-3% but do a lot of volume.  Who wants to back me in the venture?

I wondered why they brought loyalty cards in, Always found it strange, now we know!