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« Reply #81030 on: June 21, 2014, 04:31:34 PM »

Cracking tips on the cycling, the way it was presented is of huge value to people reading, noone should ever be embarrasssed to post their thoughts. Sometimes its as much about reading what someone else thinks of your fancy whether they tip it or not is as helpful as a tip itself.

Cheers for time and effort (and for the chunk of cash) and that goes for all the people posting for the benefit of others.
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« Reply #81031 on: June 21, 2014, 04:42:49 PM »

Cracking tips on the cycling, the way it was presented is of huge value to people reading, noone should ever be embarrasssed to post their thoughts. Sometimes its as much about reading what someone else thinks of your fancy whether they tip it or not is as helpful as a tip itself.

Cheers for time and effort (and for the chunk of cash) and that goes for all the people posting for the benefit of others.

+1 Well said.
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« Reply #81032 on: June 21, 2014, 04:44:34 PM »

Stage 8: Tour de Suisse
« Sent to: TightEnd on: Today at 04:35:20 AM »

Hello Tighty,

I'm sending this tip PM, because in the past, prices have tended to disappear once I've posted them to Fred. I don't think we have to worry about that any more, given my recent run of form ... but for vanity's sake here it is. Please feel free to post this up on the thread for discussion, as my short-lived auto-bet status should probably be revoked immediately.

Cheers, Jason


I'm getting a little annoyed with myself. I'm beginning to think that the bookies know more than I do. They ought to. They've definitely become a lot wiser at this cycling game over the past year. I've lost my edge. In fact, depending on the outcome, this could be my last tip for Fred (bar one I've set aside for the Tour de France):

http://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/tour-de-suisse/tour-de-suisse-stage-8/winner

Today is the first mountain stage of the Tour de Suisse. It finishes with a climb up to Verbier, which means that (apart from a breakaway) the winner should be the rider with the best climbing legs. The bookies have the favourites going something like this:
Rui Costa              7/2      Decent chance, but waaaay too short.
Bauke Mollema           5/1      Good form, but unlikely to leave anyone in his wake. Prefer his chances tomorrow.
Mathias Frank      7/1      Could win this stage. Like.
Thibout Pinot      8/1      I'd be amazed!
Roman Kreuziger           10/1      Possibility, but bad TT belies indifferent form. Saving himself for Contador?
Warren Barguil           18/1      No.
Michael Albasini           22/1      Are you kidding me?
Phillip Deignan           22/1      Hmmm. Maybe. Maybe not. Chances. Possibility. Undecided.
Cadel Evans      33/1      Better chance than Albasini.
Tom Jelte Slagter   33/1      Really?
Peter Sagan      33/1      Seriously?

This stage will be a litmus test for where I'm at against the bookies. The fact is, I think they've gotten this one horribly wrong. It's almost as if they've gone for reputation over current ability and form. If we discount the possibility of a breakaway making it to the finish line, I make it that there are four better climbers in the field than any of the above (bearing in mind that the final 8+ km up to Verbier have a challenging average gradient of 8%). They are:

Janier Acevedo                 40/1      5th Stage 3: Tour of California; 16th in yesterday's TT (and he can't TT) after a blistering climb to the first time check; Colombian; 2:07 behind Tony Martin and needs time.
Johan Esteban Rubio Chavez      50/1      1st Stage 6: Tour of California (after a breakaway); Colombian; the next Nairo Quintana; not a great TT (saving himself?)
Lawson Craddock                 125/1      3rd Overall: Tour of California; 6th in yesterday's TT … and it's not his strong point; 1:42 behind the leader. Like his chances. Youngster wants to prove himself.
Christophe Riblon                 80/1      Proven climber; past TdF stage winner; no Betancur this year in Tdf (Proving himself?); Outside chance.

I suggest that Fred stakes £2.50 e/w on each of the above for a total outlay of £20. If we don't turn a profit, I think I'm done for the year. Obviously, I've backed all of them myself.

Well now you gotta stay, right?

For those new to Fred, "cheapwetsuit" must hold some sort of record for Fred's biggest priced winners.  

Last year he have us a 150/1 winner, & today, he gave us a 50/1 winner. THIS MAN KNOWS BICYCLEY THINGS.

We don't do dick-swinging here, it's all about a team effort, & enjoying ourselves, & hopefully pinching a shilling or two along the way, but CWS has some remarkable stats in his tipping. He has given us 16 Bets, average bet size £10, & has returned over £300 profit on those small stakes, for an ROI of over 200%. Yes yes, I understand variance & all that, but even so, this is extraordinary by any yardstick.

Wonderful stuff, thank you very much.
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« Reply #81033 on: June 21, 2014, 04:45:58 PM »

Three eights have, under player specials, Aguero to have at least one shot that hits the post or crossbar up at 5-1. Surely that's very long considering how attacking Argentina are going to be and how much action there'll be in Iran's box?

You'd think this would happen at least once every 3 matches - anyone ever seen this market around before?
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« Reply #81034 on: June 21, 2014, 04:47:22 PM »

Referees have been noticeably reluctant to get the cards out so far in the WC.
Average yellow cards per game is 2.73 and red 0.19 (vs 4.15/0.26 in 1st/2nd rnd group games 2002/10).

Result of this is that there is much more chance of bookings supremacy ending in a tie - 10 out of 26 matches tied so far, against 22 from 96 2002/10.
BetEveryDay seem to have adjusted as a result but not everyone has.

Suggest the following bets next couple of days :

Germany/Ghana Tied Booking Points £20@15/4 Lads
Nigeria/Bosnia    Tied Booking Points £20@18/5 Lads (4/1 available Sky for those that can get on)
Belgium/Russia   Tied Booking Points £20 @ 17/5 WH (7/2 Sky)
S Korea/Algeria  Tied Booking Points £20 @ 18/5 WH (4/1 Sky)
USA/Portugal     Tied Booking Points £20 @ 18/5 WH

Have left Argentina/Iran as a one-sided match should mean less chance of a tie.

Only done this market this week, so happy for someone to pick it apart.

Another incredible spot, thanks Neil.
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« Reply #81035 on: June 21, 2014, 05:00:58 PM »

Great shout CWS, I will get on one of your massive price coups one day Cheesy
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« Reply #81036 on: June 21, 2014, 05:03:36 PM »

Congratulations CWS.  Astaire wasn't nearly as good, and went off a touch quickly, maybe we can get the money back on the Nunthorpe?  Hopefully some of you ignored the hidden hand from BE and got on Arab Spring with the Hills offer too. 
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« Reply #81037 on: June 21, 2014, 05:08:33 PM »

Great shout CWS, I will get on one of your massive price coups one day Cheesy

 
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« Reply #81038 on: June 21, 2014, 05:11:24 PM »

CWS now added to 'back blind' list.

Wp sir. Great tip with really good reasoning for why to back as well. So important for people like me who could write all they know about cycling on a small postage stamp.
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« Reply #81039 on: June 21, 2014, 05:20:43 PM »


Angel Di Maria 9/1
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£25.00 (O)WC ENG Refund SB1FB1906

Bet Ref: O/0140260/0000047

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« Reply #81040 on: June 21, 2014, 05:28:13 PM »

CWS now added to 'back blind' list.

Wp sir. Great tip with really good reasoning for why to back as well. So important for people like me who could write all they know about cycling on a small postage stamp.

I'm on this fantastic list.
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« Reply #81041 on: June 21, 2014, 06:02:22 PM »

CWS

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« Reply #81042 on: June 21, 2014, 06:51:24 PM »

Is it worth putting money on Argentina at this stage? Starting to become better than EVS.
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« Reply #81043 on: June 21, 2014, 06:55:28 PM »

Cheers for the top jockey stuff chomps all week.  The bookies must have taken an absolute pasting at ascot this week.  Fingers crossed they dont get it all back on the argies getting turned over!
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« Reply #81044 on: June 21, 2014, 07:07:21 PM »

705 Ling lovely ew race the front 3 at 13/8 7/4 and 9/2 should all be backed ew for decent stakes.  huge place value on all 3

http://www.oddschecker.com/horse-racing-betting/lingfield/19:05/winner
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