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« Reply #102690 on: June 16, 2015, 09:42:17 PM »

Paddy refunding bets up to £50 as a free bet if your horse finishes 2md or 3rd in The Jersey Stakes... Ivawood 13/8 fav

Thanks! Also Sly Bet are offering up to £25 back (free bet) if your horse loses to the favourite in this race.
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« Reply #102691 on: June 16, 2015, 09:59:23 PM »

Tupi a decent 20 ew tomorrow after latharnachs performance in st james

Do we not need 4 places paid for this to be a good EW bet?
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« Reply #102692 on: June 16, 2015, 10:04:44 PM »

Tupi a decent 20 ew tomorrow after latharnachs performance in st james

Do we not need 4 places paid for this to be a good EW bet?

Yes, I'd far sooner double up on the win part or take advantage of a "money back if" offer. Can't be good to take three spots in a sixteen runner race.
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« Reply #102693 on: June 16, 2015, 10:07:23 PM »

Tupi a decent 20 ew tomorrow after latharnachs performance in st james

Do we not need 4 places paid for this to be a good EW bet?

Yes, I'd far sooner double up on the win part or take advantage of a "money back if" offer. Can't be good to take three spots in a sixteen runner race.

Short priced favorite, couple of rags, it is marginal, but not horribly bad with quarter odds and a win price better than Betfair when I looked.  4 places would be excellent. 
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« Reply #102694 on: June 16, 2015, 10:18:02 PM »

Tupi a decent 20 ew tomorrow after latharnachs performance in st james

Do we not need 4 places paid for this to be a good EW bet?

Yes, I'd far sooner double up on the win part or take advantage of a "money back if" offer. Can't be good to take three spots in a sixteen runner race.

Short priced favorite, couple of rags, it is marginal, but not horribly bad with quarter odds and a win price better than Betfair when I looked.  4 places would be excellent. 

Apologies thought someone would go the extra place. Id backed tupi previously before the form boost posted, thought 20s was still pretty surprising. Dont expect 16 runners tomorrow.
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« Reply #102695 on: June 16, 2015, 10:21:45 PM »

Tupi a decent 20 ew tomorrow after latharnachs performance in st james

Do we not need 4 places paid for this to be a good EW bet?

Yes, I'd far sooner double up on the win part or take advantage of a "money back if" offer. Can't be good to take three spots in a sixteen runner race.

Short priced favorite, couple of rags, it is marginal, but not horribly bad with quarter odds and a win price better than Betfair when I looked.  4 places would be excellent. 

Apologies thought someone would go the extra place. Id backed tupi previously before the form boost posted, thought 20s was still pretty surprising. Dont expect 16 runners tomorrow.

Don't apologise, it is fine.

20/1 first, 14/1 2nd and 3rd feels about right.  5/1 3 places is just about right and it is shorter on Betfair. 
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« Reply #102696 on: June 17, 2015, 06:11:51 AM »

Morning all

Ascot has some nice races tomorrow.

3.40 is an each way dream.  You have an evens/odds on favourite and 3 horses at big prices at the bottom.  Whilst Tikay is otherwised engaged beating up some old duffers, we could back the 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th favourites each way and get value on each. Will just settle for Rizeena at 8/1 quarter first 3 with beteveryday and choral.  Bragging is 10/1 quarter first 3 with lads, pp, choral and shy.  Hopefully we get to keep 8 and can go 20 each way each.  Given the number of bookies we can probably wait to lunchtime to see if there are any non runners.  So long as we are close to Betfair at that time take what price we can get.  Ofc if one shortens horribly don't back it but each way terms means you can relax with 7/1 Rizeena and 9/1 Bragging.

5.00 pays quarter first 5 in several spots.  I assume we aren't going to lose enough to jeopardise this and we can go 20 e/w on GM Hopkins at 12/1 and get a free place.  Hills and fred offer this price so may as well hills mobile it.

5.35 this is a nice race with 17 in it.  Think we have to wait and hope we don't lose 2. witha short priced horse and a couple of big ones, we can hope we get 11/1 Jellicle Ball and quarter first 4.  I think 10 is ok, but don't go shorter.  Suggest 20 e/w

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« Reply #102697 on: June 17, 2015, 07:01:37 AM »

Morning.

Is there any other rationale other than the price is better than betfair?

It can't be the the only reason they are picks surely,  as there are other horses that fit that profile too, and as a snapshot in time during the course of the day, I'm sure others fit the bill too? It's a bit of a moving feast, so interested to know why you like them.

Reasonable question?

Going today, so may not get a chance to respond later. Gl all.
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« Reply #102698 on: June 17, 2015, 07:06:59 AM »

The last 2 have the best jockey!
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« Reply #102699 on: June 17, 2015, 07:09:07 AM »

Know nothing about basketball, why are cavs fave for next year championship over golden state?
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« Reply #102700 on: June 17, 2015, 07:12:25 AM »

The last 2 have the best jockey!

Haha.

That's good enough then Wink
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« Reply #102701 on: June 17, 2015, 07:42:34 AM »

Know nothing about basketball, why are cavs fave for next year championship over golden state?


I am the same, but from all the write ups on here, I gather they are probably the better team when at full strength, and they haven't been at full strength down the home stretch, yet still put up a fight. Next year with the expectation of a full team, they are favs.

Prob wrong, but shows I read all the posts!! Grin
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« Reply #102702 on: June 17, 2015, 09:11:47 AM »

As doobs said there is value in the hunt cup - Paddy P are going 6 places.  Their prices aren't great but I've gone for Lincoln which although at 18-1 is less than the 20-1 generally available is the slightly better bet, due to the extra place.  Speculative and Spark Plug are also the better bets with the extra place although a point shorter.
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« Reply #102703 on: June 17, 2015, 09:42:36 AM »


As doobs said there is value in the hunt cup - Paddy P are going 6 places.  There prices aren't great but I've gone for Lincoln which although at 18-1 is less than the 20-1 generally available is the slightly better bet, due to the extra place.  Speculative and Spark Plug are also the better bets with the extra place although a point shorter.


I understand that, we all understand that, but you have done exactly the same. Have you just looked at oddschecker and compared the price vs betfair, or do these horse have merit on the basis of form, track, draw, trainer stats, running into form, good jockey, nice handicap mark, distance winners, ground has come right, first time headgear, other race conditions suit?

Get my jist? It seems only fair to explain why else you fancy them. If it was just a case of comparing odds vs betfair, I am sure the world would have latched onto that and everyone would make the game pay.
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« Reply #102704 on: June 17, 2015, 09:48:08 AM »

I agree with Adz. If we have the extra knowledge, here, we should squeeze the lemon.

Any info for us, Adz?
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