The Cheltenham 2012 Thread

[action man]

Someone tell girgy that Coral's say that if you get to one of their shops tomorrow at 9am "you will get laid".

nh wp

[claypole]

Just added £70 Al Ferof @ 11/4 with Paddy - great offer I think and I  confident will stay on stronger up the Hill.

Then I guess it's just about how much to wade into the Fly...had a bottle on Spirit of Shankley in last at Stratford ap may just spin that up.

[Graham C]

Was chuckling at an ad on the radio today, one of the bookies (WH I think) was guaranteeing best odds tomorrow morning, but only between 8:30 and 9am, and only in stores, not online.

Made me chuckle with Laddies offering best odds until 11am today and PP refunding bets if Sprinter Sacre wins etc

[action man]

david williams been on the ATR preview saying that laddies 12pm-1pm on every day are best industry price on the championship race of that day. Evs minimum fly tommorow shops, phone, online

[Girgy85]

Someone tell girgy that Coral's say that if you get to one of their shops tomorrow at 9am "you will get laid".

nh wp

If these bets get there I'm gonna get laid anyway.

[T_Mar]

Someone tell girgy that Coral's say that if you get to one of their shops tomorrow at 9am "you will get laid".

nh wp

If these bets get there I'm gonna get laid anyway.

like it girgy

[Christo!]

Just got an email from will hill, they are doing Darlan 7/1 in the Supreme Novices Hurdle.

Is this worth putting the lot on Darlan EW? Or just taking a bit on the win?

[TightEnd]

sorry if this has been discussed

What is the view on the PP Arkle offer, bets refunded if you back something apart from Sprnter Sacre, and it wins?

a catch somewhere?

I like Cue Card at the prices, you see...

[T_Mar]

sorry if this has been discussed

What is the view on the PP Arkle offer, bets refunded if you back something apart from Sprnter Sacre, and it wins?

a catch somewhere?

I like Cue Card at the prices, you see...

No catch I dont think, get stuck in and make the most of it!

I was trying to work out motive, as it appears to be a crazy offer... I guess if they think its a shoe in, then its not a bad way of breaking even given that majority of business with them will be on other runners?!... Keith or Redarmi will no doubt be able to tell you exactly what they up to... might just be good old fashioned loss leader

[Hairydude]

sorry if this has been discussed

What is the view on the PP Arkle offer, bets refunded if you back something apart from Sprnter Sacre, and it wins?

a catch somewhere?

I like Cue Card at the prices, you see...

No catch I dont think, get stuck in and make the most of it!

I was trying to work out motive, as it appears to be a crazy offer... I guess if they think its a shoe in, then its not a bad way of breaking even given that majority of business with them will be on other runners?!... Keith or Redarmi will no doubt be able to tell you exactly what they up to... might just be good old fashioned loss leader

I was thinking....early race; gets people to deposit.... even if they only get their money back they are more likely to do it in on rest of the festival than snap withdraw(although that may be bs as they offer it in shop also)

[adnmdv]

I believe you're only allowed to back one selection to prevent an arb situation and you're only allowed £100 as a refund, but apart from that, no catch, it makes every other horse massively EV+. If you want you can work out the true EV+ of every horse by looking at Betfair.

It is certainly a loss leader yes, you'd have to be incredibly incompetent as a bookie to think this would still make their book on the race EV! As a side note though, I do know of one (now bust) bookie who offered out 1/3 ew odds on some big races at Cheltenham a few years back, with the decision-makers seemingly unaware of just how bad an offer this was from an EV perspective, much to the chagrin of the traders - even with super low limits it was easy to rack up some decent £EV with zero effort.

[Graham C]

Offering money back if he wins probably saves people from lumping on it as they look for better prices, could save them money perhaps?

[adnmdv]

*Could* yes, from an EV (in terms of this one race, obv ignoring business reasons) though it's terrible.

[bobby1]

sorry if this has been discussed

What is the view on the PP Arkle offer, bets refunded if you back something apart from Sprnter Sacre, and it wins?

a catch somewhere?

I like Cue Card at the prices, you see...

No catch I dont think, get stuck in and make the most of it!

I was trying to work out motive, as it appears to be a crazy offer... I guess if they think its a shoe in, then its not a bad way of breaking even given that majority of business with them will be on other runners?!... Keith or Redarmi will no doubt be able to tell you exactly what they up to... might just be good old fashioned loss leader

I was thinking....early race; gets people to deposit.... even if they only get their money back they are more likely to do it in on rest of the festival than snap withdraw(although that may be bs as they offer it in shop also)

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[ForthThistle]

GL Girgy.

ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!