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« on: February 07, 2012, 12:58:02 AM » |
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This was from the super 50 at weekend, bet on the river, call, better shows KQ for trip Q's, caller looks at his hand and says 'your good' and mucks his hand. The dealer mucks the hand and gives the chips to the better, player next to caller then says 'you had an ace flush'. Dealer says the hand is dead, but the tournament director is called over, he says the players either side of the caller say they saw the flush so the pot is given to him. Neither the dealer or the original better saw the hand. I was amazed my this ruling, any comments are welcome.
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George2Loose
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 12:58:47 AM » |
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Sounds fair.
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EvilPie
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2012, 01:01:06 AM » |
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Seems like a level of some kind.
TD should be sacked if this is true.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2012, 01:14:58 AM » |
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Hand has to be tabled. Player could be colluding with the 2 sat next to him. Hands dead. Lol@ruling
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2012, 02:33:49 AM » |
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So the TD ruled that the pot should be awarded to a player based on what the players next to him said, when the dealer or the TD never actually saw the hand?
If the dealer mucks the hand its absolutely dead surely?
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2012, 02:47:48 AM » |
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Which TD was it?
Thats a bad ruling surely. If the cards hit the muck then the hands dead. The only way that would stand is if they had a showdown where all hands are tabled. Based on the words of two other players is not ground for the pot to change winner.
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 03:28:46 AM » |
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if cards not tabled they are dead
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2012, 07:32:49 AM » |
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If I LOL at a DTD ruling now will I be barred?  |
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2012, 09:11:51 AM » |
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2012, 09:13:00 AM » |
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I did wonder that too, seems lolbad if true, I doubt it though  |
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2012, 09:27:00 AM » |
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We're almost certainly not in possession of the full facts here, so lets not jump to conclusions. Well, any more conclusions!
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2012, 09:45:48 AM » |
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No way this happened
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2012, 09:49:43 AM » |
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surely it is the players responsibility to keep, muck or expose their hand. As soon as those cards cross the line they belong to the dealer. If the cards are face down they are mucked and should be treated as such therefore not being turned over and ultimately loosing the hand for not declaring the cards. If they were face up they are in fact still live and its up to the dealer to declare the winning hand. So in simple terms face down you are declaring you are releasing your hand and allowing the other player to take the pot.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2012, 10:17:43 AM » |
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I can only imagine that the TD was unaware of the full facts and thought the hand was tabled and misread.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2012, 10:25:02 AM » |
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no TD at DTD would rule that, based on the info we've been given. there's got to be more to this...
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