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Topic: Capello resigns (Read 32227 times)
horseplayer
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 08:54:50 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)
If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.
cant agree hodgson has many friends in the media ? compared to good old 'arry he has very very few
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 08:57:31 PM »
Quote from: geordieneil on April 29, 2012, 08:30:27 PM
Quote from: Alverton on April 29, 2012, 08:26:17 PM
Actually don't mind Woy
Weally? Woy had his chance wunning Livewpool, weally couldn't handle the wigmarole of wunning a bigger weputation club,,,,,,i weally rorry for England.....hope I'm wong
Never gave him a chance from day one, imo. From just my outside perspective looking in; hard to do a job when the fans are hankering for the liverpool legend breathing down his neck.
The signings of Poulsen, Konchesky were shit though.
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 08:59:21 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)
If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.
and Redknapp?
Also has friends in the media....
No but on a serious note he's won an FA Cup, managed in the Champions League recently and shown that he is capable of handling big players. The way Spurs have dealt with Modric has been excellent.
I'm looking at a small sample in Woy's time at my club, but the players hated playing under him. Reina was told to hoof the ball, Daniel Agger, easily our best and most cultured defender didn't get games and was heard being told to "just launch the fucking thing" and we played terribly.
Would he be good for England? Strangely he might (as per Rod's point above) but I do not believe he is as good as some people think he is.
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 09:01:44 PM »
Quote from: horseplayer on April 29, 2012, 08:54:50 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)
If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.
cant agree hodgson has many friends in the media ? compared to good old 'arry he has very very few
Only he does though? Granted he probably has less than Arry, but the twitter speak aimed at Hodgson for England over Capello was ridiculous considering their CVs at the time (who knew in hindsight) and it was all from, you guessed it, UK journos.
I am totally unsurprised Arry has fallen through and they've moved onto everyone's second best mate in Woy.
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 09:02:14 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)
If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.
and Redknapp?
Also has friends in the media....
No but on a serious note he's won an FA Cup, managed in the Champions League recently and shown that he is capable of handling big players. The way Spurs have dealt with Modric has been excellent.
I'm looking at a small sample in Woy's time at my club, but the players hated playing under him. Reina was told to hoof the ball, Daniel Agger, easily our best and most cultured defender didn't get games and was heard being told to "just launch the fucking thing" and we played terribly.
Would he be good for England? Strangely he might (as per Rod's point above) but I do not believe he is as good as some people think he is.
That is a wind up, yes?
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 09:03:48 PM »
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
Moyes never won anything, I don't think lesser of him for that.
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April 29, 2012, 09:03:53 PM »
Not such a bad decision really. If the players and media give him a chance. England need a manager who knows how to win cups rather than a manager who can win a Championship over 38 games. Hodgson has never spent more than a couple of years in one job. So his successes are all cup final appearances really. He'll be asked to take an average team to a final of a tournament where they'll play teams much better than them. That's essentially what he's been trying to do his whole career in one sentence.
The problem he will have is all the Harry Redknapp people will be desperate to see him fail. They'll be on his back straight away and England never start well in big tournaments. And unfortunately we discriminate awfully over superficial things like his speech impediment. We think it's a sign of weakness and that's how he's seen I think. The journos will constantly be asking him where England are ranked.
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 09:04:29 PM »
twitter and the daily papers arefull of journos falling over themselves to fawn over a'rry on a daily basis
do not see anything like the same towards hodgson, i by no means think he is a top drawer appointment but he is a good choice at this stage imo
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 09:04:43 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)
If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.
and Redknapp?
Also has friends in the media....
No but on a serious note he's won an FA Cup, managed in the Champions League recently and shown that he is capable of handling big players. The way Spurs have dealt with Modric has been excellent.
I'm looking at a small sample in Woy's time at my club, but the players hated playing under him. Reina was told to hoof the ball, Daniel Agger, easily our best and most cultured defender didn't get games and was heard being told to "just launch the fucking thing" and we played terribly.
Would he be good for England? Strangely he might (as per Rod's point above) but I do not believe he is as good as some people think he is.
That is a wind up, yes?
Redknapps biggest achievement with a big club, which you seem to be ranking Roy on was spending fortunes and turning Spurs from the 6th best club in England to the 5th best club in England.
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 09:06:15 PM »
Quote from: Alverton on April 29, 2012, 09:03:48 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
Moyes never won anything, I don't think lesser of him for that.
Fair comment. I rate Moyes highly FWIW.
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Re: Capello resigns
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April 29, 2012, 09:08:29 PM »
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 09:04:43 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 09:02:14 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:59:21 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
Quote from: The Baron on April 29, 2012, 08:53:07 PM
Quote from: bobby1 on April 29, 2012, 08:31:29 PM
The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.
Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.
In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.
IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)
If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.
and Redknapp?
Also has friends in the media....
No but on a serious note he's won an FA Cup, managed in the Champions League recently and shown that he is capable of handling big players. The way Spurs have dealt with Modric has been excellent.
I'm looking at a small sample in Woy's time at my club, but the players hated playing under him. Reina was told to hoof the ball, Daniel Agger, easily our best and most cultured defender didn't get games and was heard being told to "just launch the fucking thing" and we played terribly.
Would he be good for England? Strangely he might (as per Rod's point above) but I do not believe he is as good as some people think he is.
That is a wind up, yes?
Redknapps biggest achievement with a big club, which you seem to be ranking Roy on was spending fortunes and turning Spurs from the 6th best club in England to the 5th best club in England.
He's won the FA Cup with Pompey and taken Spurs into the Champions League (from the relegation zone the season before) in the very recent past.
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he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament
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April 29, 2012, 09:11:16 PM »
Quote from: horseplayer on April 29, 2012, 09:09:37 PM
he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament
how is it his fault?
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April 29, 2012, 09:12:05 PM »
Quote from: horseplayer on April 29, 2012, 09:09:37 PM
he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament
Agree.
I'm not saying Arry is the best coach ever, I think he's overrated fwiw, but I think he's a better candidate than Hodgson.
Tbh I don't think any of the English candidates are that good but what can you do?
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April 29, 2012, 09:13:35 PM »
not a lot
it is all kind of irrelevant all the while the players are so technically behind the counterparts in terms of keeping the ball anyway
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