Capello resigns

[The Baron]

not a lot

it is all kind of irrelevant all the while the players are so technically behind the counterparts in terms of keeping the ball anyway

True story.

As are potential managerial candidates imo.

[horseplayer]

he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament

how is it his fault???

you do not agree that giving massive contracts to players of the ilk of benjani, kanu and ben haim (not to mention a dozen others) with no clauses for relegations e.t.c in was detrimental to the club?

i am aware peter storey was supposedly behind the negotiant but he is/was arrys puppet imo

[MANTIS01]

There's no doubt my man Roy is a top top technical coach and a thoroughly good guy. What he does really well is get decent professional footballers organised and working for each other in a disciplined way. Hence he will go to clubs like Fulham/WBA and be able to improve a situation. His international CV is fantastically diverse but it does only include improvement jobs with smaller nations where his skills are best utilised. We see when my man Roy steps up to clubs with a winning expectation with world class players his organising skills don't seem to inspire.

At top international level the players are already organised and have world class ability so they need somebody to inspire them not improve them. Roy can inspire decent pros because of his knowledge and the thought he has the ability to take them to the next level. But it's personality that's needed in the England job and I'm afraid with them tweed brown suits my man Roy is found wanting.

[WarBwastard]

he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament

how is it his fault???

you do not agree that giving massive contracts to players of the ilk of benjani, kanu and ben haim (not to mention a dozen others) with no clauses for relegations e.t.c in was detrimental to the club?

i am aware peter storey was supposedly behind the negotiant but he is/was arrys puppet imo

Kanu was awesome though and still only 29 apparently.

[horseplayer]

There's no doubt my man Roy is a top top technical coach and a thoroughly good guy. What he does really well is get decent professional footballers organised and working for each other in a disciplined way. Hence he will go to clubs like Fulham/WBA and be able to improve a situation. His international CV is fantastically diverse but it does only include improvement jobs with smaller nations where his skills are best utilised. We see when my man Roy steps up to clubs with a winning expectation with world class players his organising skills don't seem to inspire.

At top international level the players are already organised and have world class ability so they need somebody to inspire them not improve them. Roy can inspire decent pros because of his knowledge and the thought he has the ability to take them to the next level. But it's personality that's needed in the England job and I'm afraid with them tweed brown suits my man Roy is found wanting.

which players in the current england squad are world class please?

[horseplayer]

he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament

how is it his fault???

you do not agree that giving massive contracts to players of the ilk of benjani, kanu and ben haim (not to mention a dozen others) with no clauses for relegations e.t.c in was detrimental to the club?

i am aware peter storey was supposedly behind the negotiant but he is/was arrys puppet imo

Kanu was awesome though and still only 29 apparently.

bit like freddy adu was only 17 when he was 21

[bobby1]

The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.

Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.

In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.

IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)

If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.

and Redknapp?

Also has friends in the media....

No but on a serious note he's won an FA Cup, managed in the Champions League recently and shown that he is capable of handling big players. The way Spurs have dealt with Modric has been excellent.

I'm looking at a small sample in Woy's time at my club, but the players hated playing under him. Reina was told to hoof the ball, Daniel Agger, easily our best and most cultured defender didn't get games and was heard being told to "just launch the fucking thing" and we played terribly.

Would he be good for England? Strangely he might (as per Rod's point above) but I do not believe he is as good as some people think he is.

That is a wind up, yes?

Redknapps biggest achievement with a big club, which you seem to be ranking Roy on  was spending fortunes and turning Spurs from the 6th best club in England to the 5th best club in England.

He's won the FA Cup with Pompey and taken Spurs into the Champions League (from the relegation zone the season before) in the very recent past.

so he has won 1 cup in his career and that makes him a better coach than Hodgson?

Taking Spurs from the relegation spots in the Prem being his second best achievement really says nothing but you are clutching at straws. I would back any club manager in charge of every club in England to do that.

[Acidmouse]

he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament

how is it his fault???

you do not agree that giving massive contracts to players of the ilk of benjani, kanu and ben haim (not to mention a dozen others) with no clauses for relegations e.t.c in was detrimental to the club?

i am aware peter storey was supposedly behind the negotiant but he is/was arrys puppet imo

didnt he bust Bournemouth and virtually bust west ham also? So so happy it looks like they moved away from korruptnut.

Roy's a safe bet, knows how to manage a successful national team, managed the biggest teams in europe and has the ability to manage the lesser teams. I dont put too much weight on his record at liverpool, with the two asswhipes in ownership of the club even the special one would have messed up.

[bobby1]

he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament

how is it his fault???

he targeted players that were on far higher wages than the club could afford in the long run, same as he did at Southampton before that, look what happened at those two clubs after he had bailed out.

[MANTIS01]

There's no doubt my man Roy is a top top technical coach and a thoroughly good guy. What he does really well is get decent professional footballers organised and working for each other in a disciplined way. Hence he will go to clubs like Fulham/WBA and be able to improve a situation. His international CV is fantastically diverse but it does only include improvement jobs with smaller nations where his skills are best utilised. We see when my man Roy steps up to clubs with a winning expectation with world class players his organising skills don't seem to inspire.

At top international level the players are already organised and have world class ability so they need somebody to inspire them not improve them. Roy can inspire decent pros because of his knowledge and the thought he has the ability to take them to the next level. But it's personality that's needed in the England job and I'm afraid with them tweed brown suits my man Roy is found wanting.

which players in the current england squad are world class please?

Joe Hart, John Terry, Ashley Cole, Frank Lampard, Stevie G, Wayne Rooney

[horseplayer]

Joe Hart probably just yes
John Terry at his absolute best yes been exposed many times for england though
Ashley Cole yes
Frank Lampard at club level yes never been convinced for england
Stevie G name the performances for england ?
Wayne Rooney yes

[The Baron]

The thing really With Hodgson is this, if he were an overseas coach he would be lauded for what he has achieved in his career.

Most people judge him by the way he talks not what he has done.

In over 20 seasons outside Scandinavia he has won nothing.

IMO the fact he's English has him as highly rated as he is. (That and his many friends in the media)

If he was Spanish he'd be hammered and given a nickname like the fat Spanish waiter.

and Redknapp?

Also has friends in the media....

No but on a serious note he's won an FA Cup, managed in the Champions League recently and shown that he is capable of handling big players. The way Spurs have dealt with Modric has been excellent.

I'm looking at a small sample in Woy's time at my club, but the players hated playing under him. Reina was told to hoof the ball, Daniel Agger, easily our best and most cultured defender didn't get games and was heard being told to "just launch the fucking thing" and we played terribly.

Would he be good for England? Strangely he might (as per Rod's point above) but I do not believe he is as good as some people think he is.

That is a wind up, yes?

Redknapps biggest achievement with a big club, which you seem to be ranking Roy on  was spending fortunes and turning Spurs from the 6th best club in England to the 5th best club in England.

He's won the FA Cup with Pompey and taken Spurs into the Champions League (from the relegation zone the season before) in the very recent past.

so he has won 1 cup in his career and that makes him a better coach than Hodgson?

Taking Spurs from the relegation spots in the Prem being his second best achievement really says nothing but you are clutching at straws. I would back any club manager in charge of every club in England to do that.

What is there to be better than?? Hodgson hasn't won anything outside of Scandanavia. Ever. Like I said above neither is a "great" coach. The whole country seems to rate Redknapp more highly than Hodgson but you seem surprised I do?

Jol couldn't make the CL Spots (from 5th) Ramos (twice back-to-back Europa League winner - which you seem to rate highly as Hodgson finalled it) couldn't from 5th place either.

Harry did it from relegation zone to 4th in under 18 months. The first coach to break the regular top 4 since Moyes did it in 2005 with Everton. It was a huge achievement. And his net spend wasn't very big in his first 18 months. I would actually rate it more highly than his FA Cup win. If you asked him if he'd rather have 4th this season or another FA Cup I'm sure he'd take 4th in a heartbeat.

[anthonyl]

he has also heavily contributed to portsmouths inflated wage bill which has not helped there current predicament

how is it his fault???

he targeted players that were on far higher wages than the club could afford in the long run, same as he did at Southampton before that, look what happened at those two clubs after he had bailed out.

I know why people always say this. He is the manager not the accountant, just can't see how he is always blamed for it. Chairman / directors fault entirely.

[anthonyl]

Joe Hart probably just yes
John Terry at his absolute best yes been exposed many times for england though
Ashley Cole yes
Frank Lampard at club level yes never been convinced for england
Stevie G name the performances for england ?
Wayne Rooney yes

Terry is not world class. Parker is more world class than him!

Kyle Walker thoooo.

SUPERB.

[horseplayer]

the fact redknapp has left most clubs he has been at in a right state financially and squad wise probably is not relevant but he appears to be doing the same to spurs if you compare the subs bench now to when he took over.