$2k scoop spot

[pleno1]

But with all due respect, a 10 player isn't going to learn from this if anything the opposite will happen, ask John black, he spent a lot of time studying mod stakes 6 max theory, tried to implement it at nl25, guess what happened? They didn't old.

If there was only high stakes hands here then I'd understand, but there is always always a great selection of very different type of hands. Howeve there is very rarely high stakes hands posted and you very rarely see trigg, leknave, middy et al posting so basically what you said is rather upside down in my opinion. What patonius was suggesting would increase the quality of the board by after the replies trigg gt from Aaron who plays a totally different game. Against totally different players  it is going to mke middy or whoever else just send the had to sonebody on Skype rather than posting here.

When was the last time you saw sonebody post a high stakes hand on the thread now compare to 3 or 4 years ago and I can guarantee you people play a lot more bigger comps now than then.

[aaron1867]

But with all due respect, a 10 player isn't going to learn from this if anything the opposite will happen, ask John black, he spent a lot of time studying mod stakes 6 max theory, tried to implement it at nl25, guess what happened? They didn't old.

If there was only high stakes hands here then I'd understand, but there is always always a great selection of very different type of hands. Howeve there is very rarely high stakes hands posted and you very rarely see trigg, leknave, middy et al posting so basically what you said is rather upside down in my opinion. What patonius was suggesting would increase the quality of the board by after the replies trigg gt from Aaron who plays a totally different game. Against totally different players  it is going to mke middy or whoever else just send the had to sonebody on Skype rather than posting here.

When was the last time you saw sonebody post a high stakes hand on the thread now compare to 3 or 4 years ago and I can guarantee you people play a lot more bigger comps now than then.

Ah, so what you are saying is that you shouldn't post if you don't play those stakes yourself? Or because we don't want them going to Skype?

Unfortunately there is a silly assumption to what stakes I play.

[pleno1]

No what I an saying is that you should generally post in treads were you can add constructive comments or post in a mannor that is asking why rather than stating facts.

With assumption to what games you play you spoke in your gambling addiciton thread that you made 10 k from poker last year and whilst this is a great amount of money it doesn't come from regularly playing 2.1ks etc combined with your strategy advice on this thread in particular provided me with my assumptions. I generally don't care tbh, it's a free forum and people can post where they like on pokerstrategy you can only post in certain boards and you are restricted to posting in certain hand evaluations that are deemed above your status level, this is obviously not going to work on blonde.

I guess it will just put me off in the future. Best of luck to you in poker, Pha and fighting your gambling addiciton, I mean that sincerely.

[aaron1867]

Ah, so you have just backed up what I said really.

You must have been totally misguided by the topic I created elsewhere. I can play high stakes too, but I just choose not to play online as much.

[claypole]

Got be honest - I am with Pleno, Jamie and Rob; it's the way Aaron made is points as much as the level 1 thinking that has got to people; I think Marc was serious when he thought it was a level and so did I.  just life experience - if he'd kicked off with "I don't play at this level, but I'd like to understand whether you considered raising Trrigg and why you eliminated that option" I think he'd of got a sensible reply and not derailed the thread. I've asked stupid questions to many really good players - done in the right way they all responded really well but I'm still shit

Think the answers a happy medium, get involved in the thread - doing it in the right way.  

To be honest the comparison to Plenos posts on Betting Threads is unfair; a comparison would be Camel/Dubai coming on asking for a view on a long term market where he wants some more input from shrewd judges and a random £2 punter  jumps in and says he's a clown for even considering the bet and it's redic - think we'd all be pissed off if that happened and Keef and Dave said sod you I won't post here.

[smashedagain]

Lol. You've got me in bits here Aaron. I just wish some of these guys were in on some of your other threads. My favs are

1. I hate it when people don't play blackjack optimally and this guy in the casino reckons if we play together we will crush the game.

2. I am really lag but think I might try playing tight for a bit.

3. I lose a grand a day in the bookies and need help but don't want to go to GA.

The stuff you come out with is pure bull shit. I was out of line saying you must have been abused as a child but clearly something ain't right in your head

[Nit Tendencies]

Aaron, I'm going to reply to you once and once only since several people itt have TRIED to explain to you where you're going wrong, but you just seem to ignore everyone and say "imo" at the end of whatever unsubstantiated statement you've decided to spew onto the screen.

You haven't given any logic/mathematics/solid reasoning behind any of your comments, you've just made several statements that don't contribute anything to the discussion. This was a high stakes tournament, and the OP has taken the time to post an interesting hand that requires a lot of analysis so any replies should be at the same or at least a competing standard of depth.

I'm all for people with less experience throwing in their two pence, but only if they are willing to be open minded and respectful, appreciating that they are out of their league talking about $2k tourneys and just enjoy the discussion.

What you did Aaron was almost the opposite of this. Not only did you spout statements with nothing to back it up, but you also continued to harp on and de-railed what could have been a very thought provoking thread.

[aaron1867]

Lol. You've got me in bits here Aaron. I just wish some of these guys were in on some of your other threads. My favs are

1. I hate it when people don't play blackjack optimally and this guy in the casino reckons if we play together we will crush the game.

2. I am really lag but think I might try playing tight for a bit.

3. I lose a grand a day in the bookies and need help but don't want to go to GA.

The stuff you come out with is pure bull shit. I was out of line saying you must have been abused as a child but clearly something ain't right in your head

Issues, Jason.

[pleno1]

Got be honest - I am with Pleno, Jamie and Rob; it's the way Aaron made is points as much as the level 1 thinking that has got to people; I think Marc was serious when he thought it was a level and so did I.  just life experience - if he'd kicked off with "I don't play at this level, but I'd like to understand whether you considered raising Trrigg and why you eliminated that option" I think he'd of got a sensible reply and not derailed the thread. I've asked stupid questions to many really good players - done in the right way they all responded really well but I'm still shit

Think the answers a happy medium, get involved in the thread - doing it in the right way.  

To be honest the comparison to Plenos posts on Betting Threads is unfair; a comparison would be Camel/Dubai coming on asking for a view on a long term market where he wants some more input from shrewd judges and a random £2 punter  jumps in and says he's a clown for even considering the bet and it's redic - think we'd all be pissed off if that happened and Keef and Dave said sod you I won't post here.

Without him asking dave and I spent time writing detailed posts explaining the reasoning and he replied basically with loltheory , but yer good post mate

[sovietsong]

I'm with aaron.  Richard, you don't have a clue where you are in the hand. 

fold pre > RR > call

[aaron1867]

I have posted theory on this, but neither do I have as much time as you guys to look for percentages as I have things to do.

The game of poker isn't about percentages.

As for all this about stakes, again a load of tosh.

As for the thread, might better to be locked, because it's gone totally off topic and turned into most people having a go at me. zzzzzzz!

[sovietsong]

I have posted theory on this, but neither do I have as much time as you guys to look for percentages as I have things to do.

The game of poker isn't about percentages.

As for all this about stakes, again a load of tosh.

As for the thread, might better to be locked, because it's gone totally off topic and turned into most people having a go at me. zzzzzzz!

fk the haters aaron1867

[pleno1]

I have posted theory on this, but neither do I have as much time as you guys to look for percentages as I have things to do.

The game of poker isn't about percentages.

As for all this about stakes, again a load of tosh.

As for the thread, might better to be locked, because it's gone totally off topic and turned into most people having a go at me. zzzzzzz!

It's not the monetary value that makes stakes important. It is the fact that generally the players are alt better so you have to take different lives to those that you would in dtd or on a 20 dollar comp.

It takes me the same amount of time to work out the %s as it does you waiting for the ball to land in one of the 36 holes. In not dealing a flop out 100 times and writing down the results, I actually enjoy doing the studying whined the %s though as it improves my game and thats why we all post on Pha right? Invest time into learning and improving

[sovietsong]

reading this thread reminded me of this...

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=12519.0

sorry for not taking it as seriously as a should.

Heroes of this thread in order are

1) Lildave
2) aaron1867
3) pleno

Sorry that I put you third pleno.  I'm not going to give a reason but am stating it as FACT.

[claypole]

I have posted theory on this, but neither do I have as much time as you guys to look for percentages as I have things to do.

The game of poker isn't about percentages.

As for all this about stakes, again a load of tosh.

As for the thread, might better to be locked, because it's gone totally off topic and turned into most people having a go at me. zzzzzzz!

Mate, last post - bit of advice, you're probably a sound lad so log off, get some sleep and stop posting. This post, with respect, is incredibly tilting.  In a nice way, you've been told by the best online player in the world in a constructive way, your theory is way off then you've told one off the best high states MTT players in the UK his play is "redic", you had two of the best online cash players in the UK try and advise you, Jamie's last post in a very constructive way - and well, dismissed  lilDave who has time for everyone, and Pleno who works harder than anyone to improve his game. Your last post about "time to understand %" and "stakes are tosh" is quite frankly insulting to those guys who dedicate loads of time and treat playing like a job.

Rant over - goodnight all.