Folding Quads in the One Drop

[rfgqqabc]

Hellmuth's AQ call was worse.

a million times worse. 88 looks like an ok fold to me, cant hate it.

[TightEnd]

Details of the AQ hand please

I missed it. Busy speaking to techy types 

[AlunB]

Hellmuth check-called a 475k bet on the river with AQ and the board showing AQ2Q6. His opponent had 475k more behind.

http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2012-world-series-of-poker/event-55-the-big-one-for-one-drop-no-limit-hold-em/day1/?page=11

[TightEnd]

blimey, thanks

[BangBang]

Hellmuths AQ was terrible...

[mondatoo]

I liked this one more...

On the first hand after the break, Frederic Banjout asked the dealer what the blinds were and then raised to 350,000. Action folded to Phil Hellmuth in the big blind and he verified the raise was to 350,000 before announcing a reraise.

"2.2 million," said Hellmuth before sliding out the chips. Banjout called right away and the flop came down {A-Diamonds}{J-Clubs}{8-Spades}.

Hellmuth and Banjout quickly checked the flop and then the turn brought the {4-Clubs}. "One million," said Hellmuth and Banjout called straight away.

The river was the {K-Spades} and Hellmuth checked. Banjout thought for a minute while shuffling his cards back and forth. He then checked behind and showed the {Q-Spades}{Q-Clubs}. Hellmuth mucked and Banjout won the pot.

Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/live-reporting/2012-world-series-of-poker/event-55-the-big-one-for-one-drop-no-limit-hold-em/


Haters guna hate etc.

[pleno1]

on the very same day after I read the Hellmuth news I had aq on aqxqx and was up against AA

#hellmuthknows



regarding this hand (quads) actually looks ok lol

[jgcblack]

I don't know if one of the only ones on here that after reading the hh of the 88 folding.. I actually like it.

I can't see what the guy can have here that he plays like this EXCEPT the actual nuts.  He wouldn't flat JJ three way with a flushing board, so that and probably 77 is out.

How does he get to the river with  ? and KK is going to reraise preflop a big % of the time....



The only hand that makes sense to call call call call call call reraise ARRIN has to be in this case the straight flush.

If your opponents range is only  or  then in this situation it seems like an easy fold... its pretty sick for him to have a bluff of any kind as a lot of people fold.
(as a self levelling expert, I think people need to just range every street and see how their equity is vs that range on the river... in this case, not good at all) IMO

[pleno1]

if he has one combo of kk it is a call. DUCY

[outragous76]

if he has one combo of kk it is a call. DUCY

Everyone on the table was very clear about the fact he was 3 betting (and big) the top of his range pre - so you can pretty much rule out KK

[The Camel]

Was sweating Devilfish years ago at the Aviation and he folded quads in a very similar situation and was right.

[pleno1]

If your opponents range is only  or  then in this situation it seems like an easy fold... i

if he has one combo of kk it is a call. DUCY

if he has one combo of kk it is a call. DUCY

Everyone on the table was very clear about the fact he was 3 betting (and big) the top of his range pre - so you can pretty much rule out KK

[outragous76]

There was a Bax/Belowabove/scott montgomary hand  on a 7474x board where bax folds 44 below has 77 and scott montgomary gets the lot in with AA on the river.

[outragous76]

but im still never folding quads

[outragous76]

If your opponents range is only  or  then in this situation it seems like an easy fold... i

if he has one combo of kk it is a call. DUCY

if he has one combo of kk it is a call. DUCY

Everyone on the table was very clear about the fact he was 3 betting (and big) the top of his range pre - so you can pretty much rule out KK

The consensus seemed to be he could have JJ or the 9Tss (assuming of course he  has no bluffs)