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BangBang
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Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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So I have a friend who’s been playing poker professionally for a few years now, in the beginning he was making a decent living, but for the last two years he has been a losing player, occasionally he's have a decent win, like a few k but the money will always go back into the game so he never really benefits from it.. He refuses to go on training sites or take any other form of coaching (which I’ve said I’d pay for) I’ve also suggested that he get a job for a while, even something part time until he can afford to buy into the game himself, again he makes up excuses..
He’s gone from playing the 5/10 to 2/5, 1/3 now to 1/2 but feels that he is good enough to beat the 2/5 and says it’s only a matter of time until he making 15k a month again..
The problem that I’m having now is that his losing is taking its toll on my life. Every time he loses his roll, I have to finance him getting back in the game or paying his rent, bills etc etc.
Now I’ve tried talking to him, but he refuses to except that the game has become a lot harder then it was back in 06/07 when even as a recreational player I could easily make a good living online..
Not sure on what to do, getting stress from my significant other about this too..
Any advice would be much appreciated...
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You have to cut him off financially, as long as he can carry on relying on you to help him out he doesn't have to face up to the fact that he needs to get a job.
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Quote from: StuartHopkin on July 13, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
You have to cut him off financially, as long as he can carry on relying on you to help him out he doesn't have to face up to the fact that he needs to get a job.
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Quote from: millidonk on July 13, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on July 13, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
You have to cut him off financially, as long as he can carry on relying on you to help him out he doesn't have to face up to the fact that he needs to get a job.
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Quote from: LOJ on July 13, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: millidonk on July 13, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on July 13, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
You have to cut him off financially, as long as he can carry on relying on you to help him out he doesn't have to face up to the fact that he needs to get a job.
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Re: Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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July 13, 2012, 02:58:29 PM »
I haven't had a touch for a while. Could you bung me a few quid please, just until I bink something...
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Quote from: BangBang on July 13, 2012, 02:34:57 PM
So I have a friend who’s been playing poker professionally for a few years now, in the beginning he was making a decent living, but for the last two years he has been a losing player, occasionally he's have a decent win, like a few k but the money will always go back into the game so he never really benefits from it.. He refuses to go on training sites or take any other form of coaching (which I’ve said I’d pay for) I’ve also suggested that he get a job for a while, even something part time until he can afford to buy into the game himself, again he makes up excuses..
He’s gone from playing the 5/10 to 2/5, 1/3 now to 1/2 but feels that he is good enough to beat the 2/5 and says it’s only a matter of time until he making 15k a month again..
The problem that I’m having now is that his losing is taking its toll on my life. Every time he loses his roll,
I have to
finance him getting back in the game or paying his rent, bills etc etc.
Now I’ve tried talking to him, but he refuses to except that the game has become a lot harder then it was back in 06/07 when even as a recreational player I could easily make a good living online..
Not sure on what to do, getting stress from my significant other about this too..
Any advice would be much appreciated...
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I'm just not a fan of paying my mortgage every month. Can you cover it for me?
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Quote from: millidonk on July 13, 2012, 03:03:51 PM
I'm just not a fan of paying my mortgage every month. Can you cover it for me?
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Re: Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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July 13, 2012, 03:10:09 PM »
I was thinking something more in the terms of professional help, I don't think he realizes that what he is doing isn't beneficial to his life, he considers losing for 2 months then winning for a week a win... Not sure..
See if he were to get a job with the habit that he has I think he'd go straight back into playing and losing which would be detrimental to his future prospects.. If he was to get help for what I see as a gambling problem I could always give him a job, or get one of my colleagues to employ him
At the moment I think poker is consuming him and the lack of success is making him depressed.. I can't physically take him to see a therapist because he just plain refuses to go..
Two things I'm considering
1. Telling his family.
Pros: They support him and we can have an intervention to make sure he gets help
Cons: To which the consequences could be that they cut him off completely, which would put him in a deeper hole
2. Getting him a job
Pros: He will be financially interdependent
cons: He takes his wages and spews them in the casino, doesn't show up to work, which would reflect badly on me and tarnish his future prospects
Not sure what to do..
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Re: Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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July 13, 2012, 03:11:17 PM »
He needs to realise for himself that he is no longer a winning player. Youve done the right thing in trying to address that with him, now you just need to stop financing him. Sounds like youre being supportive in other ways with advice and offering to get him coaching.
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Re: Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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July 13, 2012, 03:11:57 PM »
So he refuses coaching or training, has been losing for two years, relies on money from a friend to survive (and to play).
In what way is he "playing poker professionally"?
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Re: Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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July 13, 2012, 03:16:29 PM »
you sound a very nice guy tbh
offer to sort him a job but explain in no uncertain terms there will be no more financial support from you (well your getting him a job tbf)
if he doesnt accept this then sorry there is little more you can do
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Re: Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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Quote from: EvilPie on July 13, 2012, 02:58:17 PM
Quote from: LOJ on July 13, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: millidonk on July 13, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on July 13, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
You have to cut him off financially, as long as he can carry on relying on you to help him out he doesn't have to face up to the fact that he needs to get a job.
That's such sound advice.
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Re: Poker Playing Friend, (HELP)
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Quote from: Crotale on July 13, 2012, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: EvilPie on July 13, 2012, 02:58:17 PM
Quote from: LOJ on July 13, 2012, 02:57:26 PM
Quote from: millidonk on July 13, 2012, 02:53:10 PM
Quote from: StuartHopkin on July 13, 2012, 02:43:29 PM
You have to cut him off financially, as long as he can carry on relying on you to help him out he doesn't have to face up to the fact that he needs to get a job.
That's such sound advice.
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