Chess thread

[Tal]

Mr, tal

I've just watched this video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/_0QdI0rVoHA

It's calsen playing bill gates.

In it the commentator says carlson makes a losing move but is doing it for tricks

What does playing for a trick mean in chess?

Hi

Good question.

It's similar to the poker concept of exploitative play, rather than Game Theory Optimal. You have an opponent who is likely to make a lot of mistakes and who won't be able to make the calculations necessary to make good decisions consistently in complicated positions. So, one school of thought is to be aggressive and risk the opponent luckboxing the right moves. By making positions complicated, the stronger player, if that does happen, maintains the imbalance that would give him a chance of recovering any lost material.

Of course, the main aim is to go for the king, particularly as time is short. Carlsen knows that Gates might miss Re1 in this game and his novice instinct will be more keen to take the piece on offer. A additional dynamic is how quickly Carlsen is having to move (he has just 30 seconds to make all his moves). A novice might think Carlsen has made a mistake and forgotten or not spotted there's a knight hanging. This is the world champion and it's a million to one he misses that. Put simply, Carlsen sets a trap.

He'd never do that against a stronger player. He's made suboptimal moves to exploit his opponent's weaknesses.



This is the video of the game.

[teddybloat]

Beautifully explained, sir.

Thank you

[Rexas]

Thoroughly enjoyed that explanation Tal

[McGlashan]

CarlsenKarjakin starts today and Chess24 will be my standard default for the viewing. Someone previously posted some good Twitch coverage aswell though.

[curnow]

CarlsenKarjakin starts today and Chess24 will be my standard default for the viewing. Someone previously posted some good Twitch coverage aswell though.

https://www.twitch.tv/chessnetwork

was watching bit of chess24.com coverage , know the twitch link gets a lot of hits , not sure if that is the one you mentioned

[McGlashan]

CarlsenKarjakin starts today and Chess24 will be my standard default for the viewing. Someone previously posted some good Twitch coverage aswell though.

https://www.twitch.tv/chessnetwork

was watching bit of chess24.com coverage , know the twitch link gets a lot of hits , not sure if that is the one you mentioned

Thanks. The name looks familiar.

[McGlashan]

Eastern time games are going to be a late night sweat, very late for a school night. I tuned in at midnight incorrectly assuming the game wouldn't go on for too much longer.

[McGlashan]

First blood to Karjakin in game 8!

[curnow]

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/8

think he should have taken the draw , 1 pawn island is normaly better but those pass pawns on a & b file looked so strong , Carlsen gonna have to go for it in last 4 games

[TightEnd]

5-5 with two games left

we then get shorter clock tiebreakers?

[Tal]

5-5 with two games left

we then get shorter clock tiebreakers?

Yes. Four rapidplay games. Then blitz games. Then an armageddon game.

Why can't there be a drawn match and the champion keeps his title? Just me?

Wesley So analyses last night's game: http://en.chessbase.com/post/newsblog-wcc-carlsen-karjakin-2016-11-25-en

For those who didn't watch on Chess 24 (with Svidler and Gustafsson's brilliant commentary), 20.Nf2 does not force a draw, contrary to reports.

[bergeroo]

yesterday listened to an interesting podcast about Kirsan Ilyumzhinov - what do you guys think of this guy?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04hklxl

[neeko]

Final game of the 12 starting in 40 mins.

Will they go for a bore draw and play the blitz?

[Tal]

Final game of the 12 starting in 40 mins.

Will they go for a bore draw and play the blitz?

I'm expecting a cagey game. No reason to suppose either side is going to risk defeat in any dramatic way, but I see no reason why they won't play today trying to win.

I doubt we'll see another Trompovsky.

Not sure where people are watching but Chess24 has been my favourite:

https://chess24.com/en/watch/live-tournaments/carlsen-karjakin-world-chess-championship-2016/1/1/12

Svidler's dry (British) wit has been tremendous. His ability to analyse these complex positions is mind blowing.

[Karabiner]

Looking very much like a stonewall draw to this fish.