Lance Armstrong gives up the fight

[Delboy]

If Hincapie accepts it, that's game over now, surely?

Already happened...


http://www.georgehincapie.com/news/

[Tal]

If Hincapie accepts it, that's game over now, surely?

Already happened...


http://www.georgehincapie.com/news/

Sorry, yes I meant if in the sense of "if it's good enough for him, it's good enough for me". I saw that Hincapie has admitted it. Entirely my fault - a classic case of typing something without the context!

Horrible stench of inevitability.

[Tonji]

Not game over until Armstrong admits his guilt & gets over this "Superman" complex., & stops using his Livestong charity as a smokescreen of respectability.

UCI, McQuaid & Verbruggen have to accept their own cover-ups.

[Tonji]

Armstrong's lawyers (laughable) statement "a one-sided hatchet job -- a taxpayer-funded tabloid piece rehashing old, disproved, unreliable allegations based largely on axe-grinders, serial perjurers, coerced testimony, sweetheart deals and threat-induced stories"

[The Baron]

Athletics, swimming...certainly suspicions that athletes are ahead of the testers

As well as cycling, which other sports are suspected of widespread malpractice?

It is rife in boxing in my opinion. There have been a few failed tests recently but that's only the tip of the iceberg. The sanctions imposed on those who have failed tests have hardly been a deterrent to others either

Had dinner with a friend recently, who is one the best judges of athletics betting around.

He is absolutely convinced Seb Coe was a cheat.

Make significant performance advances at an age when improvement was very unlikely. His 800m times would still put him in the top 3 of today. Every other athlete during the 80s who performed at a level comparable in other events has been unmasked as a drugs cheat.

If only this could be proved, I'd be a happy man!

I couldn't agree more with this post. Abs ridiculous times for his era.

In fact half of the men's world best times at 800m and nearly all of the women's are a joke.

[kinboshi]

Athletics, swimming...certainly suspicions that athletes are ahead of the testers

As well as cycling, which other sports are suspected of widespread malpractice?

It is rife in boxing in my opinion. There have been a few failed tests recently but that's only the tip of the iceberg. The sanctions imposed on those who have failed tests have hardly been a deterrent to others either

Had dinner with a friend recently, who is one the best judges of athletics betting around.

He is absolutely convinced Seb Coe was a cheat.

Make significant performance advances at an age when improvement was very unlikely. His 800m times would still put him in the top 3 of today. Every other athlete during the 80s who performed at a level comparable in other events has been unmasked as a drugs cheat.

If only this could be proved, I'd be a happy man!

I couldn't agree more with this post. Abs ridiculous times for his era.

In fact half of the men's world best times at 800m and nearly all of the women's are a joke.

I get what you're saying, but to extend that disbelief to the present day - is David Rudisha a cheat (in other words, do you disbelieve that he is a legitimate world-record holder and Olympic champ)?

I have heard people cast aspersions at Paula's marathon WR, and her stance on doping is very well known.

[The Baron]

Athletics, swimming...certainly suspicions that athletes are ahead of the testers

As well as cycling, which other sports are suspected of widespread malpractice?

It is rife in boxing in my opinion. There have been a few failed tests recently but that's only the tip of the iceberg. The sanctions imposed on those who have failed tests have hardly been a deterrent to others either

Had dinner with a friend recently, who is one the best judges of athletics betting around.

He is absolutely convinced Seb Coe was a cheat.

Make significant performance advances at an age when improvement was very unlikely. His 800m times would still put him in the top 3 of today. Every other athlete during the 80s who performed at a level comparable in other events has been unmasked as a drugs cheat.

If only this could be proved, I'd be a happy man!

I couldn't agree more with this post. Abs ridiculous times for his era.

In fact half of the men's world best times at 800m and nearly all of the women's are a joke.

I get what you're saying, but to extend that disbelief to the present day - is David Rudisha a cheat (in other words, do you disbelieve that he is a legitimate world-record holder and Olympic champ)?

I have heard people cast aspersions at Paula's marathon WR, and her stance on doping is very well known.

Rudisha, I would like to think is clean.

I would say 3 or 4 of the men's top 10 times in the 800m are held by cheats - Coe definitely being one. Probably 7 or 8 of the women's.

If Paula isn't clean I may as well give up watching athletics.

[AndrewT]

If Paula isn't clean I may as well give up watching athletics.

Well, there was that one marathon where she was dirty...

[jakally]

I would say 3 or 4 of the men's top 10 times in the 800m are held by cheats - Coe definitely being one.

Is there anything come to light to back this up?

[Longy]

This week there was a 30 for 30 doc on espn in the us about Seoul Olympics 100 m final which was good. Basically they were all at it with the exception of Calvin smith who got the bronze after Ben Johnson was disqualified. This is rife in every top level sport IMO and you just have to except it.

Fwiw Carl Lewis comes across as a a terrible self righteous pos in the docu and might be one of least favourite sporting personalities ever.

[Tonji]

Excellent investigative documentary on the Armstrong doping affair. Worth a watch.

http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2012/10/11/3608613.htm

[Tonji]

Pressure builds....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19978608

[AndrewT]

Good article speculating that Lance will confess all soon.

http://pvcycling.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/the-coming-confession/

[The Camel]

Good article speculating that Lance will confess all soon.

http://pvcycling.wordpress.com/2012/10/17/the-coming-confession/

I was starting to feel a little sympathy for Armstrong until I read that.

[kinboshi]

Will he have to return his overseas SPOTY trophy?