EDL

[discomonkey]

ill keep that in mind, i have about 3 weeks before my next likely action selling venture.....

MUST

GET

SPAMMING

 

[The Camel]

I understand why you're concerned Karl - I believe in the Koran one of the rules is that you need 900 posts to ask for staking.

BoB

[AceHighSuited]

The EDL are not a political group, they are a bunch of jumped up wannabe football hooligans.    Any self respecting mob won't touch this lot with a barge pole though because they are riddled with old bill and other state intelligence officers.  I know a few football lads up and down the country and they treat the EDL with distain.  

As for the fella from Luton I understand he came from Irish stock, ironic that someone from an Irish background is involved with a group like this.  I guess it just shows there are racists in every community.  

I haven't yet read the other responses on this thread, I just saw the title and replied.  I will obviously read what others said before getting involved in any further debate.

[AceHighSuited]

a national newspaper listed a bunch of policies a while back across a full page and asked "would you vote for this party", all very legit very reasonable policies and it turned out to be the BNP....

even though there are a lot of extreme retard policies in some of the far right political groups some of the sentiments they have actually resonate through  large parts of the country....

im not even close to supporting any of the extreme parties but certain parts of the ideals and thought processes are pretty legit and if they were adjusted to be slighty less extreme, would get a shit load of votes if they were made to be the main focus of their campaigns imo

Of course they can blur the situation and get support by highlighting mainstream issues. Some people will be fooled and some will close their eyes to an organisation's main purpose because the issue being addressed is more important to them, just like the IRA gained support in Dublin in the 80s by it's anti-crime "initiatives" and it's involvement in Concerned Parents Against Drugs.

This is true of the ireland situation.  I come from an Irish family and although I no longer live there I know of people across the country who supported the stance taken in many Republican areas against drug dealers and criminals. 

Today, however, those same people are dead set against groups taking on the role of vigilante there was a show recently on BBC about this and former IRA people were calling on the local community to pass on information surrounding such groups to the Gards and PSNI. 

Personally I am all for communities policing themselves and I think having that sort of community only make it a better place to live.  If the community take ownership of their own streets and neighbourhood's and stand upto the troublemakers and hoods then the community is stronger for it. 

I came across the IWCA a while ago and they have some real good people working for them and doing good work.   But I understand they are changing tact again and moving away from the actual politics.  I'm not sure though what the plans are.

[scotty77]

I think that a lot of people forget that a large percentage of the people who support groups like the EDL are generally from deprived backgrounds, which breeds resentment.

You can see from that video that the guy there has clearly had a life that hasn't really given him a chance, whether it be thru a lack of a decent education, coming from a poor area, getting involved with the wrong kind of characters, having an unstable family life. 

Society has failed them in some way and one would hope that the government and local government are doing things to stop these kind of views on BOTH sides (as the muslim community certainly has similar kind of groups).

It's very easy to just judge these people on the video clips and soundbites without thinking of the path that lead them there....especially as I would expect most people on blonde come from relatively stable backgrounds and we've all had various opportunities that most of these people haven't.

Not supporting them in anyway at all....just think that a lot of the time people don't think of the cause of these issues and are quick to go OMG scum.

[AceHighSuited]

The recent success the BNP had was due to capturing the imagination of young working class people in this country.  The working class were deserted by New Labour when they came to power.  Tony Blair and his cronies are to blame for this. 

I also apportion blame to the gutter right wing press who continuously print lie after lie about asylum seekers and immigrants who come here to live. 

The working class areas are disenfranchised and only see their local MP's on or around election day.  They talk up re-generation and better housing but millions of people still live in poverty.  In certain areas across the country the youth see fathers & grandfathers, mothers and grandmothers, uncles, cousins etc live on the dole and this is what they aspire to.

The ruling class across the country have no concern for those under them.

Its easy to blame individuals but in lots of cases people don't know any better.  They do as others have done before them.

That said there can never be any excuse for racism or fascism of any kind.  The only people that should be deported from this country are cowards like Nick Griffen. 

[The Camel]

I think that a lot of people forget that a large percentage of the people who support groups like the EDL are generally from deprived backgrounds, which breeds resentment.

You can see from that video that the guy there has clearly had a life that hasn't really given him a chance, whether it be thru a lack of a decent education, coming from a poor area, getting involved with the wrong kind of characters, having an unstable family life. 

Society has failed them in some way and one would hope that the government and local government are doing things to stop these kind of views on BOTH sides (as the muslim community certainly has similar kind of groups).

It's very easy to just judge these people on the video clips and soundbites without thinking of the path that lead them there....especially as I would expect most people on blonde come from relatively stable backgrounds and we've all had various opportunities that most of these people haven't.

Not supporting them in anyway at all....just think that a lot of the time people don't think of the cause of these issues and are quick to go OMG scum.

There are millions of people from deprived areas who didn't have a proper education.

99% of them are decent, law abiding people who don't support fascist groups like the EDL.

[Royal Flush]

I think that a lot of people forget that a large percentage of the people who support groups like the EDL are generally from deprived backgrounds, which breeds resentment.

You can see from that video that the guy there has clearly had a life that hasn't really given him a chance, whether it be thru a lack of a decent education, coming from a poor area, getting involved with the wrong kind of characters, having an unstable family life. 

Society has failed them in some way and one would hope that the government and local government are doing things to stop these kind of views on BOTH sides (as the muslim community certainly has similar kind of groups).

It's very easy to just judge these people on the video clips and soundbites without thinking of the path that lead them there....especially as I would expect most people on blonde come from relatively stable backgrounds and we've all had various opportunities that most of these people haven't.

Not supporting them in anyway at all....just think that a lot of the time people don't think of the cause of these issues and are quick to go OMG scum.

There are millions of people from deprived areas who didn't have a proper education.

99% of them are decent, law abiding people who don't support fascist groups like the EDL.

I'll take the unders on 99%

[Acidmouse]

There was a rather telling documentary that followed the clown who leads the EDL from Luton around on his day to day life.

A few times he reverted back to 'Character' and the truth about how he uses racial slurs and violence to get through various situation was alarming. Very little intelligence tbh, I was delighted he is at the helm, means they wont ever be serious or climb out of the cesspool.

[pleno1]

There was a rather telling documentary that followed the clown who leads the EDL from Luton around on his day to day life.

A few times he reverted back to 'Character' and the truth about how he uses racial slurs and violence to get through various situation was alarming. Very little intelligence tbh, I was delighted he is at the helm, means they wont ever be serious or climb out of the cesspool.

He does come across badly in the documentary, very badly in fact but he's a guy who's used to being drunk around his mates and I think accepts that he barbed innaprppiately there, idi remember him vein punched in the face and not retaliating off the leader f the opposing Muslim party.

When he has been on tv he has always came across very good and intelligent with lots of facts to back up all I his arguments, if anything he is the only reason that I have any positive thoughts towards the party as before researching just assumed, naturally that thy were a bunch of thugs.

As far as I can see they only have probelms with Muslims who practice or more so want non Muslims to practice extreme sharia law that seems to have massively effected his home town - Luton which in turn changed his passion from going out drinking to becoming passionate over sown thing that he thinks will benefit his family and friends. One of his best friends is a practicing Muslim lad and there are 'Indian' 'Jewish' and other groups within he organisation which would never happen in party's such as the bnp/national front.

As far as the main problems are the national front etc say things such as get them all out etc but the edl seem to have a lot of issues that they massively
Disagree with and try to change conditions for their close ones who have been effected by the more aggressive/extreme jews. For example I think I heard something about there being a huge Jewish community in Luton but now there is next to none.

[pleno1]

I understand why you're concerned Karl - I believe in the Koran one of the rules is that you need 900 posts to ask for staking.

BoB

Also amazing

[nirvana]

There was a rather telling documentary that followed the clown who leads the EDL from Luton around on his day to day life.

A few times he reverted back to 'Character' and the truth about how he uses racial slurs and violence to get through various situation was alarming. Very little intelligence tbh, I was delighted he is at the helm, means they wont ever be serious or climb out of the cesspool.

He does come across badly in the documentary, very badly in fact but he's a guy who's used to being drunk around his mates and I think accepts that he barbed innaprppiately there, idi remember him vein punched in the face and not retaliating off the leader f the opposing Muslim party.

When he has been on tv he has always came across very good and intelligent with lots of facts to back up all I his arguments, if anything he is the only reason that I have any positive thoughts towards the party as before researching just assumed, naturally that thy were a bunch of thugs.

As far as I can see they only have probelms with Muslims who practice or more so want non Muslims to practice extreme sharia law that seems to have massively effected his home town - Luton which in turn changed his passion from going out drinking to becoming passionate over sown thing that he thinks will benefit his family and friends. One of his best friends is a practicing Muslim lad and there are 'Indian' 'Jewish' and other groups within he organisation which would never happen in party's such as the bnp/national front.

As far as the main problems are the national front etc say things such as get them all out etc but the edl seem to have a lot of issues that they massively
Disagree with and try to change conditions for their close ones who have been effected by the more aggressive/extreme jews. For example I think I heard something about there being a huge Jewish community in Luton but now there is next to none.

Don't know if it's trying to type on your phone or just yr stream of consciousness but either way, stick to PHA imo

[kinboshi]

There was a rather telling documentary that followed the clown who leads the EDL from Luton around on his day to day life.

A few times he reverted back to 'Character' and the truth about how he uses racial slurs and violence to get through various situation was alarming. Very little intelligence tbh, I was delighted he is at the helm, means they wont ever be serious or climb out of the cesspool.

He does come across badly in the documentary, very badly in fact but he's a guy who's used to being drunk around his mates and I think accepts that he barbed innaprppiately there, idi remember him vein punched in the face and not retaliating off the leader f the opposing Muslim party.

When he has been on tv he has always came across very good and intelligent with lots of facts to back up all I his arguments, if anything he is the only reason that I have any positive thoughts towards the party as before researching just assumed, naturally that thy were a bunch of thugs.

As far as I can see they only have probelms with Muslims who practice or more so want non Muslims to practice extreme sharia law that seems to have massively effected his home town - Luton which in turn changed his passion from going out drinking to becoming passionate over sown thing that he thinks will benefit his family and friends. One of his best friends is a practicing Muslim lad and there are 'Indian' 'Jewish' and other groups within he organisation which would never happen in party's such as the bnp/national front.

As far as the main problems are the national front etc say things such as get them all out etc but the edl seem to have a lot of issues that they massively
Disagree with and try to change conditions for their close ones who have been effected by the more aggressive/extreme jews. For example I think I heard something about there being a huge Jewish community in Luton but now there is next to none.

So you are an EDL sympathiser!

[Acidmouse]

"When he has been on tv he has always came across very good and intelligent with lots of facts to back up all I his arguments"

Not being funny or owt but lol..

[smashedagain]

"When pleno has been on  pha he has always came across very good and intelligent with lots of facts to back up all I his arguments"

Not being funny or owt but lol..

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