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« Reply #75 on: October 08, 2012, 11:44:31 PM »

When I was a kid, I used to spend 2 weeks every summer holiday at my Nan's.

Behind her house there was a huge park where the local kids played. It was surrounded on three sides by roads and one side by a row of terrace houses.

I used to play football outside until the very last of the daylight disappeared. No adults around, although various parents checked up on us at various times.

I certainly wasn't neglected.





A: were u five
B: because nothing happened that makes it ok?
C: do you think there was more or less chance of something happening in the late 19th century Smiley

I think the first time I stayed there I was four. There was a group of maybe 15-20 kids aged from 4 to 12 who used to play together.

Yes, I think it was fine. In fact one the happiest memories of my childhood.

I'm not as old as Karabiner you know.

My childhood in Scotchland, was similar to Camel's. Different generation obv..
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« Reply #76 on: October 08, 2012, 11:46:03 PM »

So you let a 5 year old roam the streets at night without the supervision of an adult?  

I don't know were the camel lives but were I am it was pitch black at 6:30 last week.

I'm also hearing reports this evening that within a 5 mile radius of my house there have been 3 reported abductions of kids.  Ages unconfirmed but the police are apparently aware of the situation, so not as uncommon as some in this thread would have us believe.  



He wouldn't be "roaming the streets".

He would be playing in area he knows well and with kids he knows.

And a great big WTF to the bolded bit.

What an extraodinary thing to write down. Every time a child is abducted in this country it is quite understandably the lead story on national news for weeks. Three kids within 5 miles of your house? A very weird and disturbing claim.

In my area there was an attempted abduction of a 9 year old from a school playground..think u don't really hear about attempts

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http://www.harlowstar.co.uk/News/Harlow-news/Police-drop-investigation-into-attempted-abduction-allegations-02102012.htm

Ok it turned out to be nothing...
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« Reply #77 on: October 08, 2012, 11:47:33 PM »

You'r obviously far too protective then, you will get used to it.

Rather that than being on telly pleading for some nonce to bring my kid back

Not trying to be funny, but I was same when my kids were young, you will see that you are being over protective, & as far as abductions go it's possibilty v's probability, so common sense wins, the chances of this happening in this town is so minute it's like being one outered 5 x on the trot.
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« Reply #78 on: October 08, 2012, 11:49:28 PM »

So you let a 5 year old roam the streets at night without the supervision of an adult?  

I don't know were the camel lives but were I am it was pitch black at 6:30 last week.

I'm also hearing reports this evening that within a 5 mile radius of my house there have been 3 reported abductions of kids.  Ages unconfirmed but the police are apparently aware of the situation, so not as uncommon as some in this thread would have us believe.  



He wouldn't be "roaming the streets".

He would be playing in area he knows well and with kids he knows.

And a great big WTF to the bolded bit.

What an extraodinary thing to write down. Every time a child is abducted in this country it is quite understandably the lead story on national news for weeks. Three kids within 5 miles of your house? A very weird and disturbing claim.

In my area there was an attempted abduction of a 9 year old from a school playground..think u don't really hear about attempts

link?
http://www.harlowstar.co.uk/News/Harlow-news/Police-drop-investigation-into-attempted-abduction-allegations-02102012.htm

Ok it turned out to be nothing...


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« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2012, 12:00:58 AM »

You'r obviously far too protective then, you will get used to it.

Rather that than being on telly pleading for some nonce to bring my kid back

Not trying to be funny, but I was same when my kids were young, you will see that you are being over protective, & as far as abductions go it's possibilty v's probability, so common sense wins, the chances of this happening in this town is so minute it's like being one outered 5 x on the trot.


Not so much the chance of being snatched as a five year old out unsupervised at that time..and I don't count a bunch of other 5 olds as supervision
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« Reply #80 on: October 09, 2012, 12:03:01 AM »

When I was a kid, I used to spend 2 weeks every summer holiday at my Nan's.Qqqqqqqqq

Behind her house there was a huge park where the local kids played. It was surrounded on three sides by roads and one side by a row of terrace houses.

I used to play football outside until the very last of the daylight disappeared. No adults around, although various parents checked up on us at various times.

I certainly wasn't neglected.





A: were u five
B: because nothing happened that makes it ok?
C: do you think there was more or less chance of something happening in the late 19th century Smiley

I think the first time I stayed there I was four. There was a group of maybe 15-20 kids aged from 4 to 12 who used to play together.

Yes, I think it was fine. In fact one the happiest memories of my childhood.

I'm not as old as Karabiner you know.

My childhood in Scotchland, was similar to Camel's. Different generation obv..

There was never any danger of someone snatching you son believe me
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« Reply #81 on: October 09, 2012, 12:04:47 AM »

im with keith here, childhood is all about exploration and fun im sure the parents thought that the place was 100% safe for their daughter to play. The fact these instances are the headline story and everyone remembers the children involved, proves the point how rare the instances are. It would be a real shame if parents started to mollycoddle kids and have them under big brother supervision 24 hours a day. 7pm at night is not the same everywhere.
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« Reply #82 on: October 09, 2012, 12:09:51 AM »

I don't get the fuss about the dark? Are child abductors vampires?

I remember the Milly Dowler case. She was 13 and walking home after school in the afternoon sunshine yet got snatched clean off the street by Levi Bellfield. How many actual cases are there where toddlers have been snatched off the street at 7pm in small Welsh towns? So reckon governing your life to watch out for the bogeyman 24/7 is unrealistic. In fact in the April Jones case the victim wasn't snatched at all but was seemingly coerced into the car by somebody she knew. She could have been coerced into that car at any time of the day on any given day.
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« Reply #83 on: October 09, 2012, 12:18:37 AM »

I don't get the fuss about the dark? Are child abductors vampires?

I remember the Milly Dowler case. She was 13 and walking home after school in the afternoon sunshine yet got snatched clean off the street by Levi Bellfield. How many actual cases are there where toddlers have been snatched off the street at 7pm in small Welsh towns? So reckon governing your life to watch out for the bogeyman 24/7 is unrealistic. In fact in the April Jones case the victim wasn't snatched at all but was seemingly coerced into the car by somebody she knew. She could have been coerced into that car at any time of the day on any given day.

Not if she was being supervised by one of her parents.
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« Reply #84 on: October 09, 2012, 12:27:16 AM »

So as parents we should follow our children around 7 days a week 24 hours a day? Trust no one but ourselves with them?
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« Reply #85 on: October 09, 2012, 12:27:53 AM »

I don't get the fuss about the dark? Are child abductors vampires?

I remember the Milly Dowler case. She was 13 and walking home after school in the afternoon sunshine yet got snatched clean off the street by Levi Bellfield. How many actual cases are there where toddlers have been snatched off the street at 7pm in small Welsh towns? So reckon governing your life to watch out for the bogeyman 24/7 is unrealistic. In fact in the April Jones case the victim wasn't snatched at all but was seemingly coerced into the car by somebody she knew. She could have been coerced into that car at any time of the day on any given day.

Not if she was being supervised by one of her parents.

Your kids got no legs?
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« Reply #86 on: October 09, 2012, 12:29:10 AM »

I don't get the fuss about the dark? Are child abductors vampires?

I remember the Milly Dowler case. She was 13 and walking home after school in the afternoon sunshine yet got snatched clean off the street by Levi Bellfield. How many actual cases are there where toddlers have been snatched off the street at 7pm in small Welsh towns? So reckon governing your life to watch out for the bogeyman 24/7 is unrealistic. In fact in the April Jones case the victim wasn't snatched at all but was seemingly coerced into the car by somebody she knew. She could have been coerced into that car at any time of the day on any given day.

Not if she was being supervised by one of her parents.

Your kids got no legs?

Meaning?
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« Reply #87 on: October 09, 2012, 12:40:11 AM »

Can't believe ur all missing the point.. Point in question is would u let ur 5 year old child out without an adult in the near dark... Yes or no... Forget getting snatched etc...
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« Reply #88 on: October 09, 2012, 12:41:08 AM »

Can't believe ur all missing the point.. Point in question is would u let ur 5 year old child out without an adult in the near dark... Yes or no... Forget getting snatched etc...

In some situations, I think it is acceptable.
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« Reply #89 on: October 09, 2012, 12:44:39 AM »

Can't believe ur all missing the point.. Point in question is would u let ur 5 year old child out without an adult in the near dark... Yes or no... Forget getting snatched etc...

In some situations, I think it is acceptable.

I suppose it's acceptable if you want to snatch a kid Smiley

Not sure of any figures but are the majority of these types of cases opportunist or premeditated?
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