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« on: October 28, 2012, 09:29:03 PM »

villain on btn is a reg, i have been here 5 hands, 3bet him once and folded every other hand, hes opened 4/5 of those hands.

thoughts?

PokerStars Hand #88374599774: Tournament #653020010, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level X (250/500) - 2012/10/28 22:20:36 CET [2012/10/28 17:20:36 ET]
Table '653020010 172' 9-max Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: jcashcollect (13454 in chips)
Seat 2: kyntteri (45823 in chips)
Seat 3: FaNjkEEE (10643 in chips)
Seat 4: FERRARI1973 (32560 in chips)
Seat 5: pengebingen1 (88797 in chips)
Seat 6: D.playah489 (16866 in chips)
Seat 7: framica3 (4830 in chips)
Seat 8: carpediem200 (23354 in chips)
Seat 9: pads1161 (17143 in chips)
jcashcollect: posts the ante 50
kyntteri: posts the ante 50
FaNjkEEE: posts the ante 50
FERRARI1973: posts the ante 50
pengebingen1: posts the ante 50
D.playah489: posts the ante 50
framica3: posts the ante 50
carpediem200: posts the ante 50
pads1161: posts the ante 50
pads1161: posts small blind 250
jcashcollect: posts big blind 500
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to pads1161 [ ]
kyntteri: folds
FaNjkEEE: folds
FERRARI1973: folds
pengebingen1: folds
D.playah489: folds
framica3: folds
carpediem200: raises 500 to 1000
pads1161:
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2012, 09:36:25 PM »

3b/5b jam vs this villian
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« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2012, 11:35:53 AM »

Call....
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« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2012, 11:43:06 AM »

think folding is better than 3betting with your stack here.

Fold/Call it is, maybe slighty more 3 inclined to fold vs an aggro opponent, vs someone more passive who's likely to let you get to showdown more often I'd be calling
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2012, 12:35:31 PM »

I think you can make a case for anything here, the fact that its a really obv spot to 3/5 makes me less inclined to do it vs a thinking reg as I think alot of his 4b range won't be folding, and I don't like 3b/folding. So I guess call? We crush his opening range, flops pretty good, gona flop dominating top pairs some of the time. Yea I think i like calling.
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2012, 01:05:38 PM »

Played a bunch with this kid. I fold.

His 4b'jam range crushes us, were pretty dominated oop by his calling range if we 3b. I totally wouldn't put it past him to cib 4b either with these stacksizes.

So the only option left is to call, and although he's defo much more #teampreflop, I'd abso hate playing a pot oop vs him.

This is his only chance to own us every orbit, fold it and attempt to own him the other 8 hands. Imo.
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2012, 01:28:20 PM »

Vote = call
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2012, 01:38:30 PM »

Looks a great spot to flat.
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« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2012, 01:56:18 PM »

ite, i called. cool wasn't sure.
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2012, 04:23:28 PM »

don't wanna 3bcall. pretty hopeful to think hell 4Fold with these stacks.

we have paint, and they're both red, we might match our cards with the board.

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2012, 04:48:39 PM »

I Mitch here
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2012, 04:56:45 PM »

I Mitch here


what? move the blinds and antes so we have 8 bigs effective on the quadruple straddle, then give us aces in the big blind after 4 people are all in?
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2012, 05:08:50 PM »

why does no-one think he has room to 4b/fold? he def does imo, but I don't know how often he will do it I think his 4b range is gona be weighted to too much stuff hes not folding than random blockers
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2012, 05:10:59 PM »

I Mitch here


what? move the blinds and antes so we have 8 bigs effective on the quadruple straddle, then give us aces in the big blind after 4 people are all in?

order pudding, and repeat
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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2012, 05:23:28 PM »

why does no-one think he has room to 4b/fold? he def does imo, but I don't know how often he will do it I think his 4b range is gona be weighted to too much stuff hes not folding than random blockers

just don't see him having much a 4bF strat to this stack without previous dynamic.

if we 3bet to get it in and he 4bet jams what are we doing?
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