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[redarmi]

It's interesting how experiences differ.  My experience of Ladbrokes shops is the exact opposite of Marks.  Every firm has its bad moments obviously but my general experience with Ladbrokes is that they will generally lay a bet and avoid the really embarrassing knock backs (although obv a fiver at 6/1 is ridiculous).  Corals on the other hand make offered me £25 on a horse at 9/2 when I asked for £80 the first time I ever walked through the doors of one of their shops and it wasn't a really hot race (think it went off at 9/2) or bad ew etc.  Fred I find similar.  Hills and Paddys seems to flit between the two generally being okay-ish but then being ridiculously bad on occasions.  It is amazing how times have changed.  I used to manage some of Ladbrokes better properties about 18-20 years ago and I can only ever remember knocking back a bet once and we daily took 4 figure bets and there were plenty of bigger bets too.

[TightEnd]

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[ripple11]

Cheers to Brodders for Spain U21's bet last night.

[junior91]

I've just signed up to the £99 chelt package, when I click on the link all I see is the list of races. Has there not been any writeups posted yet?

[Bad Beat]

 Not yet. I'm basically only going to post something when it fits my criteria...

a. I think it will shorten significantly prior to the race or the each-way terms are very advantageous.

b. It's available at a price we can all get on. There is no point finding something only available with 888 at 20/1 when all other firms are 12/1.

c. We can bet non-runner no bet. Corals, Fred and Paddy of the high street firms are now NRNB so I have stepped up my search for bets.

 I do think I have found a few bets now and I plan to write some things for later today. For people who have gone for the £30 option you just get the write-up if it appears in "your" day. £99 punters will obviously be able to see everything.

 I'm pretty excited about Cheltenham and it's tempting to go mad having loads of ante post bets while the "phoney war" is happening this week. I think I'm slightly better than the firms at figuring who goes to which races and that means I have an edge...I'm likely to bet things that shorten.

 Next week though is a massive shop-window for the industry, they'll be enhanced place terms, price boosts, we'll know exactly what the going is and the composition of each race.

 I think it's a close call between waiting and going in now. I'm taking it case by case.

 

[JoeBeevers]

A second ante-post write up Amazing Early Gold Cup Value has just been published on the site and is available to everyone that signs up for the £99 Package and those who sign up to the Gold Cup Day on it's own (Day 4 Fri March 14th) for £30.

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[RickBFA]

...obviously the shops is the only way to get on. They have these things on what they name their "call-over" system. You needn't write a slip, it's set up in the machine, the cashier doesn't need to spend time looking for prices they just type Helium and it comes up 6/1 for Best Live Action Short Oscar. You try to bet what you want and it will tell you if you've exceeded the maximum and you'll be presented with a printed ticket. Until you get the exact maximum right by trial and error we can't know what it might be.

 At Rayner's Lane a guy is watching a ticker which shows all maximum bets coming on any market via shops on call-over bets or via the internet, text or telephone. If a bet comes up max twice and one is a shop he may ring the shop and ask who the customer is and what they want.

 I had a few people in shops ready to help with horses on Saturday and I asked them to bet Helium whenever they could.

 Ten minutes after I asked the market on Best Live Action Short was suspended. I had not yet got any sort of bet on. Ladbrokes seemed to still be offering the favourite at 4/7 (2.2 Betfair) and the outsider at 50/1 (100/1 Betfair) but the other fims came up suspended. One bet placer told me they had been offered £5 which they  declined.

 Four hours later I rang customer services to ask if they had Oscar prices and then to ask if they had Best Live Action Short. Oddschecker showed Helium at 6/1 but the Ladbrokes website said "market suspended". They said it wasn't available and I asked if they could make it available again as I wanted a bet. They noted my query and three hours later I called again.

 At this stage nobody had got 1p on and all that had happened was someone tried to bet £50 and declined to bet £5.

 The second time I called they insisted on getting my account details, (Ladbrokes rarely close accounts they just restrict a lot of them), before they would do anything. I asked if there were prices and if there were plans to open the market. By now it was 7pm on Saturday. I planned a Saturday night stroll round 20 shops.

 The telephonist came back and told me quite curtly...

 "the trader said you can have £5 at 6/1"

 I hadn't even asked for a selection and I just wanted 6/1 to appear so I might slip a few bets through in the shops. I declined hoping they might just put 5/1 up and leave it there. I posted my article on Betting Emporium and I went out to the shops.

 1st shop I went in they say they don't bet on the Oscars. The guy then asks how to spell Oscars. I tell him and we wait 5 minutes. Then he asks what are the Oscars. I explain and suddenly a light-bulb appears. He had thought I was asking for first goalscorer. A drunk man approached the counter and put his face inches from my head. I let him go first.

 I was offered 4/1.

 In the end I backed Helium at 9/2 and 4/1 in very many shops. In the last Hills shop I went to they told me £50 at 9/2 and £50 at 7/2. I thought maybe "the rest at SP".

 The film went as short as 7/4 in the minutes before the off.

 If I hadn't have bet on this film and tipped it on Betting Emporium I would guess they would see almost no action on this category. In the end they got lots of action.

 I can see an argument for providing a full service of markets as a barrier of entry to new firms and as a way of ensuring that VIP customers can find everything they could ever want to bet on and never need to take their casino and FOBT business elsewhere.

 I just cannot understand the decisions here though. When I hear people say they must be ripe for a takeover and the share price is too low I think about Saturday and the many days of similar experiences with similar firms.

 They must all be a massive sell, they are all staffed by incompetent morons. The management have no idea what they are doing and no way of improving things and the people right at the top are the worst. Imagine when the FOBTs go how can they survive at all?

 We must punish these people while they are still here and operating the way they do.

Totally agree about punishing them - especially when they have offers on like the Ladbrokes Man Utd Chelsea one.

I'm trying to milk the PoddyPower Cheltenham offer at the moment.

I now have a group of "friends" who will do the rounds as well when required which helps.

My experience of doing the rounds of the shops is 95% of staff are either 19 year old kids or 60 year old ladies who haven't got a clue about what you are doing and don't care. That can be a pain but if you visit a few shops its generally a blessing.

[TightEnd]

I thought Neil's Ryanair write up was interesting, out today

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[JoeBeevers]

The first Tuesday write up has just been posted: 'Supreme Value' Neil has picked out two big priced each way bets.

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[rfgqqabc]

What time will the other writeups go up? Roughly how long before?

[Omm]

Great write ups so far, highly recommend if you haven't signed up do it straight away. Fantastic reasoning and analysis. Top drawer.

[TightEnd]

What time will the other writeups go up? Roughly how long before?

The Arkle has just gone up

So thats the first two races done

As fast as Neil can gather his thoughts and write them I suppose!

[rfgqqabc]

Thanks a lot Neil, top bombing so far.

As a brief aside and not really being sure where else to put this, I think 365 being top price for all but two of the horses in the first is genius. Anyone just having a flutter will have their cash in those accounts from then on.

[JoeBeevers]

Write ups for all  of Tuesday's Cheltenham races have been published.

[Kmac84]

Was it a good day for BE?  I was humming and hawing over buying the package but decided against it on the basis that its Cheltenham and i would prefer to win or lose on my own.  I have heard of groups chucking in £20 each though and 5 of them having the info, seems pretty low to me.