Irish - These are the tough spots...

[Honeybadger]

One point is that you can value bet (or raise) the river a little wider at Irish than at PLO. The top of ranges does not change too much when compared to PLO - at least not if the flopped nuts is still the nuts by the river, as in this hand. But what does change is the relative strength/composition of the middle part of players' ranges (both perceived and actual ranges). This is an effect of only having 2 cards rather than 4 from the flop onwards. Thus you can expect a raise to be called by any trips or better hand at Irish - and sometimes even a hand like AK - whereas this will not always be the case at PLO. This is why it is a rather easier raise at Irish than it would be at PLO. If you believe that this would almost be a value raise at PLO then that likely makes it a rather more comfortable (if thin) value raise at Irish.

Irish is still a crap game though IMO, even though there are a small number of slightly interesting subtleties to it.

[SuuPRlim]

never raise this in PLO without a very good reason.

Yh I realise the concept stu, although haven't got any examples lol

R.E the open I was just opening nearly every btn for min, no idea why was just going with the floowwwww

[Royal Flush]

Ask Middy?

[SuuPRlim]

Ask Middy?

"I dunno mate, prolly just go all in"

he says as he wipes some nandos sauce off his chin, not sure if he even looked at the HH.

[Royal Flush]

Did he at least look at the Nandos?

[SuuPRlim]

Did he at least look at the Nandos?

what nandos?

[sedds]

Not sure what i'd do, which seems to be the case in alot of situations in irish poker so far but i can't get enough of this game, most fun i've had playing poker in ages

[Honeybadger]

Can someone please explain to me why they like Irish?

It removes all the good bits about PLO and leaves only the bad bits, and it removes all the good bits about NLHE and leaves only the bad bits.

In NLHE the bad thing is that no-one ever has a goddam thing... but then the good thing is that you can therefore do a lot of bluffing/thin value betting since you are not always scared of running into the flopped nuts.

In PLO the bad thing is that you always have to be careful of running into the flopped nuts... but the good thing is that you can have big daws against whatever the flopped nuts is.

Irish is a game almost designed to kill action. You always have to be careful of the flopped nuts being out there since everyone starts with 4 cards, yet it is impossible to have much of a draw vs the flopped nuts since you have to throw half your hand away. Worst of both worlds, best of none = crap game.

[Dubai]

Why does noone play a game where you get dealt 2 and after the flop you get dealt another 2. That would be more fun!

Might patent it. DubaiDeal

[sedds]

Probably 'cause 99% of the poker i play is holdem, i don't mind PLO but have never really took to it, so i guess irish is different enough to seem fresh but still feels kinda familiar

[tight4better]

Why does noone play a game where you get dealt 2 and after the flop you get dealt another 2. That would be more fun!

YES. In for this

[rfgqqabc]

A nit game for nits imo. Dave's losing street cred pretty fast