Let's do this blonde!!!

[DMorgan]

In for a reload, probs just drop the hypers till out of original makeup

[MC]

The simple fact of the matter is that $100 FO's are shot taking with a $5k roll

But it isn't really a $5k roll in the traditional sense. Mondatoo is playing $36 180-mans off a $4k roll. That's still shot-taking to some degree. I don't want him to switch to $8 games just because his in-play roll goes down to $1k, nor would he when his OP makes no mention of playing anything other than $36 180-mans.

I have had many months with no wages myself and I get my head down and work harder with a smaller roll to get back up there and I am sure you have done similar. 

You underestimate how golden I run

[lucky_scrote]

Dan - I believe in your ability and was very keen to be involved in this stake and would like to keep going but I have to admit I have some concerns.  I just read over your original post and there are a few things in it that you haven't really kept to.

 Firstly, you said that when the roll went below $2k you would remove the $80+ games and play more $15 180's but the other day with the roll stood at under $1200 you were playing $109 freezeouts.  You have effectively gone through $10k so far and if we, as investors chip in another $5k I think you will possibly be starting to run dry of investors a little which affects me as an investor as much as you because if people don't keep chipping in we have no chance of getting out of makeup.  As such I think that the higher buyin tournaments represent too high a risk to the roll at this stage in the lifespan of the stake and would prefer to stick to tournaments that represent 1% of the roll or less.  I know that initially the idea would be to be taking some shots but at this stage I would rather have hard and fast rules and just see you really grinding it back up even if that means playing $10 FO's.

Secondly, you suggested you would be playing 5-7 days a week.  So far this month you have only played 14 out of the last 30 days properly.  I don't have a huge issue with this and obviously there are occasions when you need some time off and that is fine by me but the problem is that I don't feel like I know what your results are and what is happening with the stake on a day to day basis.  It would be great if you could update the thread on a daily basis with an idea of how many games were played and what the total stake was and what the returns were.  I know it is a bit of a pain to keep admin type tasks like that but it really helps with transparency and is a cost of being staked.  Until I went to OPR just now I honestly had no idea when you were playing and when you weren't.  Part of the appeal of these kind of stakes is the sweat factor too so it is good to keep us up to date.

Be good to hear your thoughts.

Hi redarmi,

Firstly an apology is due for my poor communication at times. It's certainly a life weakness of mine and once again I apologise. I have to say, when you're doing your nuts the last thing you feel like doing is coming on, making a report saying "I'm doing my bollocks" but that's not an excuse.

Firstly regarding the BRM. I have been fairly strict but I'll be honest I've not taken the $109 fo's out. I have to say, I felt that it'd be a poor decision to leave these out. They are really soft and I don't really want to advertise this too much. I've not played an $82 hyper since the 11th May (12 days ago) since I can't be bothered with the variance and it's not in everyone's interest that I play these whilst in quite a bit of MU. Perhaps whether I should play the reg speed $109's any more should be open for discussion but I will totally agree with you on the turbos and perhaps take the $51 hypers out too. As for any of the Sunday majors, once again, those will have to be put aside unless I've gone on a mad heater or I put time into satelliting into them or something.

Secondly I would like to address the issue you have with my volume. This might be down to me not being great at updating this thread (I will do better from now) but I think you couldn't be further from the truth. Fair enough, every day I play might not be a full session but according to sharkscope I have played 38/49 days (take a week out a month then that is no days off). Holdem manager says that I've played for 335 hours which works out at 47.9 hours a week. I think that is extremely high when you take into account that I have a week off a month. I could possibly be accused of burning myself out rather than slacking!

Dan

[DMorgan]

Yeah volume has been absolutely fine Dan, I'm happy to keep the 109s in there and just drop all the hypers. If you wanna play sunday majors I'd suggest just playing a few sats to them, obv they're ridic soft. I don't know how experienced you are with satellites in general but wouldn't be hard to pick up.

[redarmi]

Just to be clear I don't really have an issue with the volume more with knowing when you have played.     My biggest issue at this stage is bankroll management.  If every staker wants to say that they are down for two more bullets or one staker says they are willing to  buy makeup and make up the difference if we lose this $5k then I can live with $109 but on the basis of a $5k stake then I think it is too high.

[lucky_scrote]

Just to be clear I don't really have an issue with the volume more with knowing when you have played.     My biggest issue at this stage is bankroll management.  If every staker wants to say that they are down for two more bullets or one staker says they are willing to  buy makeup and make up the difference if we lose this $5k then I can live with $109 but on the basis of a $5k stake then I think it is too high.

I want to keep everyone happy. If I said I was going to cut out the $109fo's and $50 turbos then I would probably upset more people than I would keep happy. I totally understand your view though. From here on out I will drop $109 turbos until I am winning for a while, same for the $82's (already dropped anyway), $75 turbos and $51 hypers.

Here are two links to my hand histories from the two $109fo's I played yesterday. I went through these with James because I went deep in them and had some decent hands. Here you can see that I am capable of playing ok (There is no argument against this yet) and that clearly there are some complete and utter plonkers playing these games and it's great!

http://rapidshare.com/files/1748127910/Export%20Holdem%20Manager%202.0%2005232013112630.txt
http://rapidshare.com/files/4231533280/Export%20Holdem%20Manager%202.0%2005232013112422.txt

If you can import those hands into HEM/PT/UHP then it'll make like easier.

Does my outline on tourneys dropped satisfy investors for the time being?

[redarmi]

I can live with this as a compromise. 

[the sicilian]

in for another bullet...

[lucky_scrote]

As for sending funds could people send on stars asap but if sending by BT it will need to be on Monday or Tuesday morning (Like I said I have a stag do this weekend). I don't really want other peoples money in my BA whilst I'm a bit tight on funds.

For people that have not decided whether to re-invest at this point then no rush, you don't need to make a decision until the end of the weekend.

[MC]

Does my outline on tourneys dropped satisfy investors for the time being?

Agree with Dan (M), dropping the 82/51 hypers and $215+ seems fine, but I'd prefer you kept everything else in.

[lucky_scrote]

Does my outline on tourneys dropped satisfy investors for the time being?

Agree with Dan (M), dropping the 82/51 hypers and $215+ seems fine, but I'd prefer you kept everything else in.

What about the $109 turbos though? What do you think edge and variance is in those? $75 turbos?

[rfgqqabc]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=35375156&postcount=98
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=35375156&postcount=99

Offpeak can't be different enough surely?

[lucky_scrote]

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=35375156&postcount=98
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showpost.php?p=35375156&postcount=99

Offpeak can't be different enough surely?

TBH I think you are right. I think peoples edges in the turbo's are smaller than what they think they are. Mainly due to the rake. I mean $100+9 is a bit of a joke to be honest. They are still worth playing though, but perhaps because a good players ROI is around the 10-15% mark for $50+ buyins then you need a bigger roll than perhaps initially anticipated.

[TL900]

IMO you seem to have massively underestimated variance in mtt's especially turbos and this downswing isn't surprising or even a big one. 80% of your games have been turbo/hypers with a very high ABI that is only as low as $40 because of the amount of $3r/$15 180mans you have played. As Adam has posted in the link above, some of the very top MTT grinders in the world only have 8-10% ROI's in these big buyin turbos over 60,000 games (pretty significant sample) and I would imagine they play near perfectly in them. To go on a 250 buyin downswing playing this current schedule really isn't that big and I think if your going to continue to play this schedule then investors should realise they might have to go 4/5 bullets deep in this (that is not a knock on you in any way or your ability btw, I don't think I have ever played with you and have no opinion on your game its just the facts for everyone) I recently went on a 1200 buyin downswing playing with an ABI of about $25 and 35-40% turbos so I know what a cruel mistress variance can be even with a higher proportion of reg speed games and I'm sure other people have been on downswings 5x as big as that.

Im not an investor and I don't want to put anyone off including yourself but I think your game selection really needs work and I think you need a bit of a wake up call when it comes to variance/downswings.

Im sure you'll turn it around, gl.

[titaniumbean]

good post, hypers are def an utter joke.