Thatcher dead?

[The Camel]

highlights on youtube

2 hours 22 minutes of House of Commons laughs.

Think I'll leave it thanks.

[TommyD]

We should at least remember fondly her greatest achievement - she was the undoubted star of Spitting Image.

How many people nowadays could name half of the cabinet?  Thanks to the late Sunday night viewing, pretty much everyone at school could do so for the years that it ran.

Seriously forgot how good Spitting Image could be, so I've just spent a couple of hours watching the very best (and sometimes worst) I could find on YouTube, thanks for the reminder Sheriff.

As for this, pretty much agree with Jakally and Mohican earlier in the thread.  Plenty of time has passed and will be plenty in the future to discuss the legacy.  Today boils down to 'Widow dies of stroke.'

The best way to sum it all up for me would probably be another more subtle Spitting Image gem.

[the sicilian]

Definitely pro Thatcher here and proud of it. My life, my family and those around me certainly benefitted from having a PM with balls. T

Sums it up really, me me me.

Yes it may be a 'me, me, me' centric view but so what. First and foremost my family and their welfare is my priority and secondly everyone else. It's my view and I'll stand by it. I am now able to support my family and contribute to society by means of my tax contributions and charitable donations all largely down to Maggie.

The Thatcher years made me what I am today and I'm proud of that. It taught me that I should not expect things on a plate and that I should earn what I want out of life whether that's working for myself or for somebody else.

My parents and school teachers taught me that.

Sorry, I should add that my parents did their bit, not so sure about the scool though. I should also ammend my words to say that the Thatcher government made it easy for me to succeed. (I've never been good with the written word- hence the school comment)

Yeah, you were fine if you weren't poor, disabled, a trade union member, a nurse, ill, old, gay or in desperate need of a council house.

I was a perfect example of the Thatcher legacy...coming into political and working awareness in the mid eighties.. i came from a relatively poor background but I was given the opportunity to aspire to more than a life of mediocrity by a leader who inspired and made me believe in myself..that i could own my own home and that there were no boundaries shaped by class etc...   so a working class boy from a family of solid labour supporting working class was able to become a city dealer ( most of whom at the time were not public school toffs as most generalise to be..but tough fast talking East end boys )and then to own several successful business....

I like bobalike were shaped by Thatcher but I'm also not stupid enough to believe all she did was golden... As a whole I believe she was good for this country... i too remember sitting in the dark with power cuts etc as the country sat in the unions stranglehold whose only answer was to pull everyone out on strike...

[scotty77]

While reading a lot of content about her online today, especially about how she was viewed outside the UK, it jogged something in my memory.

Was on a Geography field trip to Milton Keynes, and one of the activities was visiting a business that was based there.  It happened to be a Japanese owned company.  Someone in the group asked the guide why they chose the UK as their EU base and he said Margaret Thatcher.

I think that most people can appreciate what an amazingly diverse mulch-cultural society we live in where the UK is home to so many multi-national companies.  I wonder how different our economy would be without her.

[Woodsey]

[kinboshi]

Woodsey, most  of the 'attacks' are on Thatcherism rather than at the woman herself. So the call of ad hominem attacks is incorrect.

[Woodsey]

Woodsey, most  of the 'attacks' are on Thatcherism rather than at the woman herself. So the call of ad hominem attacks is incorrect.

I am thinking broader than just this thread Dan, plenty of tossers out there insulting her and celebrating her death. I agree no problem to attack her policies, but to say some of the personal stuff about her that I see being spouted in various places especially right now is just low life behaviour.

[mulhuzz]

Woodsey, most  of the 'attacks' are on Thatcherism rather than at the woman herself. So the call of ad hominem attacks is incorrect.

there most certainly are ad hominem attacks though.

not that I necessarily agree that there shouldn't be, you understand...

[Acidmouse]

How is her son Mark a Sir?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Thatcher

this is incredible stuff.

A loan shark to SA police force akin to wonga rates! Guilty of trying to overthrow a country Guinea#?! Tax evasion, settling out of court? About as big a snake as they come.

Least we not forget Thatcher branded Mandela a criminal terrorist and did her up most to keep SA apartheid strong. Wonder how much she got for supporting that/them? or should I say how much of a free reign was Mark given there to milk them dry.

We now have the Mail telling us she saved football in this country...you cant make this shit up..

[Jon MW]

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Least we not forget Thatcher branded Mandela a criminal terrorist and did her up most to keep SA apartheid strong. ...

That would be Mandela who started an organisation committed to blowing things up?

[Acidmouse]

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Least we not forget Thatcher branded Mandela a criminal terrorist and did her up most to keep SA apartheid strong. ...

That would be Mandela who started an organisation committed to blowing things up?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5290106.stm  Yeah O K .

If we brand anyone under a facist, racist regime who aims for change a terrorist then we are in trouble. Maybe Thatcher prefered "the party of Pinochet" instead, ofcourse he was never a bad man.

[bobAlike]

How is her son Mark a Sir?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Thatcher

this is incredible stuff.

A loan shark to SA police force akin to wonga rates! Guilty of trying to overthrow a country Guinea#?! Tax evasion, settling out of court? About as big a snake as they come.

Least we not forget Thatcher branded Mandela a criminal terrorist and did her up most to keep SA apartheid strong. Wonder how much she got for supporting that/them? or should I say how much of a free reign was Mark given there to milk them dry.

We now have the Mail telling us she saved football in this country...you cant make this shit up..

You're missing the point Acid, Maggie made all this possible. Have you not ever tried to overthrow an African country?

[TightEnd]

How is her son a Sir?

Hereditary Baronetcy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcher_Baronets

"As of 2013, the Thatcher baronetcy is the last hereditary title to be granted to someone outside the British Royal Family."


Not too difficult to find out, but its easier to go "wtf, how can he be a sir?" isn 't it.

[Acidmouse]

How is her son a Sir?

Hereditary Baronetcy...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcher_Baronets

"As of 2013, the Thatcher baronetcy is the last hereditary title to be granted to someone outside the British Royal Family."


Not too difficult to find out, but its easier to go "wtf, how can he be a sir?" isn 't it.

I knew why, but it's one of those things where its amazing he still can hold it being a toe rag

[TightEnd]

He holds it til he dies

I don't think they can ever be removed

Of course these days, the whole baronetcy system is not used for new patronage, understandably given attitudes to hereditary privilege