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Question: Should Electronic Cigerettes be used in cardrooms?Huh?
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« Reply #15 on: April 15, 2013, 01:45:46 AM »



Since seeing this I've considered taking up smoking, just so I can quit. Had me in hysterics for hours.
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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2013, 06:18:57 AM »

I am one of those guys who use electronic cigs at the card tables. They have helped me to completely give up smoking and thus I love them.

There seems to be a problem using these e-cigs at DTD caused by the air conditioning. I always try to blow the 'smoke' up into the air so it won't bother anyone. However, sometimes it seems to get blown down by the air con and ends up drifting across the table. And occasionally it can look like I am actively trying to blow smoke into people's faces when the air con sends the smoke in an unintended direction. I am always rather embarrassed when this happens and it is never intentional.

It should be pointed out that the 'smoke' is just pure water vapour and thus is completely harmless as well as being odourless. I can appreciate it still might be rather unpleasant to have this steam blown at you though, even if it is accidental.
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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2013, 08:02:45 AM »

They shouldn't be allowed at the table. If you want to use them then move away.
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2013, 10:07:08 AM »

Whilst we're on the subject of table etiquette, if you have a cold, flu, stomach bug whatever, why are you sat next to me at a poker table? Go home, play online and keep your germs to yourself.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2013, 10:10:49 AM »

Ban live poker. It's the only way
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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2013, 11:06:05 AM »

Ban live poker. It's the only way

Doesnt matter at events with online satties anyway. Theyre all robots
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2013, 01:20:28 PM »

I am one of those guys who use electronic cigs at the card tables. They have helped me to completely give up smoking and thus I love them.

There seems to be a problem using these e-cigs at DTD caused by the air conditioning. I always try to blow the 'smoke' up into the air so it won't bother anyone. However, sometimes it seems to get blown down by the air con and ends up drifting across the table. And occasionally it can look like I am actively trying to blow smoke into people's faces when the air con sends the smoke in an unintended direction. I am always rather embarrassed when this happens and it is never intentional.

It should be pointed out that the 'smoke' is just pure water vapour and thus is completely harmless as well as being odourless. I can appreciate it still might be rather unpleasant to have this steam blown at you though, even if it is accidental.

I use them often too and they definitely give off a smell (might be diff brand but majority do).
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« Reply #22 on: April 15, 2013, 01:37:55 PM »

Some do smell, Ban the things
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« Reply #23 on: April 15, 2013, 01:40:52 PM »

Robots who smoke electronic cigarettes and order tap water should be banned imo.
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« Reply #24 on: April 15, 2013, 01:44:20 PM »

I am one of those guys who use electronic cigs at the card tables. They have helped me to completely give up smoking and thus I love them.

There seems to be a problem using these e-cigs at DTD caused by the air conditioning. I always try to blow the 'smoke' up into the air so it won't bother anyone. However, sometimes it seems to get blown down by the air con and ends up drifting across the table. And occasionally it can look like I am actively trying to blow smoke into people's faces when the air con sends the smoke in an unintended direction. I am always rather embarrassed when this happens and it is never intentional.

It should be pointed out that the 'smoke' is just pure water vapour and thus is completely harmless as well as being odourless. I can appreciate it still might be rather unpleasant to have this steam blown at you though, even if it is accidental.

I use them often too and they definitely give off a smell (might be diff brand but majority do).

There's no way they smell worse than live poker players.
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« Reply #25 on: April 15, 2013, 02:03:34 PM »

Robots who smoke electronic cigarettes and order tap water should be banned imo.

God damn robots. Rigging satties, blowing smoke in our faces and demanding tap water
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« Reply #26 on: April 15, 2013, 02:16:19 PM »

Play chess in cafés in UAE and your opponent might well be on the shisha pipe:



Grandmaster Igor Smirnov found this out recently.
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« Reply #27 on: April 15, 2013, 03:12:59 PM »

Play chess in cafés in UAE and your opponent might well be on the shisha pipe:



Grandmaster Igor Smirnov found this out recently.

omg shish at dtd and i'd never leave. mmmmmmm
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« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2013, 05:49:36 PM »

They shouldn't be allowed at the table. If you want to use them then move away.

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« Reply #29 on: April 15, 2013, 05:52:36 PM »

Some do smell, Ban the things
They shouldn't be allowed at the table. If you want to use them then move away.

Can either of you give a rational reason why they should be banned at the table? And by rational reason I mean more than the fact that you just don't like them personally.

It is, I concede, possible that some brands might have a very slight odour in the steam. I am pretty certain that the brand I use doesn't. But tbh I don't think this is an issue anyway.

If you order some garlic bread at DTD and eat it at the table next to me then every now and then I will get a very unpleasant whiff of your garlic breath. Just as you might, very occasionally, get a tiny bit of steam from my e-cig drifting your way. I would never think to seek to have garlic bread banned. Nor would I seek to have poker players with BO or smelly feet banned from my table - there are plenty of these and it is surely far worse sitting next to one of these guys than sitting next to me smoking my electronic ciggy.

If you are not at any health risk from me smoking my electric cig then I don't really see what reason you have got to expect them to be banned. People do all sorts of things at the poker table that I personally would rather they didn't do. Most of these things are, however, simply my own personal preferences and I don't believe they should be banned from doing such things simply because I don't like them.

I suppose that part of the issue you have with e-cigs is that they look like real cigarettes and the steam looks like real smoke. If you are an ardent non-smoker then this might offend or upset you due to your visual associations. But this is not really logical. I imagine you have no problems with the older type of ciggy replacements - the little white things that didn't look at all like cigarettes and no steam came out of? If this is true then your problem with e-cigs must be a) the fact that they look like cigarettes, and b) the fact that they give off steam that looks like cigarette smoke. As far as I am concerned it is just tough luck regarding a) ... I might as well complain that I don't like the look of your T shirt. Regarding b) you do have more of a point. However, this only applies IMO when the steam is directed straight at you. I concede this is likely annoying for some people even if it does not smell (or hardly smells) and does no harm. However, I believe that noone should have a problem as long as the steam is not blown toward anyone. The steam vanishes within seconds into the air, it does not linger and drift in the air like cigarette smoke does. And any slight odour that is in the steam does not linger either, and certainly does not make your clothes smell like happens when sitting in the presence of a ciggy smoker. I imagine you have no problem seeing steam in and of itself, right? It is just the associations that upset you. And, in time, these associations will change.

In the meantime please understand that these e-cigs have made a radical difference to many people's lives. I have given up smoking for over a year now. And it has been EASY to do. I hope those who feel a bit uncomfortable about seeing these e-cigs smoked in their presence will realise what a positive effect they are having on the lives of some of the people they play poker with, and will thus try to be tolerant.
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