Being a Lolpro for dummies.

[tikay]

Andy.

Pot Limit is quite a game, but we are not obliged to bet "POT", & really, WE should know what the pot is, it is just as much our responsibility to know it as the Dealers.

A good Pot Limit player will KNOW what the pot is, always. This is not NL, nor is it Online. Different skills requiired, & whilst a good Dealer SHOULD know, so should a good player.

As to the quality of the Venue, believe me, you have been spoilt by DTD, which is different gravy completely. Welcome to Live Poker!

PS - Was great to see you there, & I hope the chat with you know who (no names please) went well. 

[tikay]

I'm assuming this is what you were referring to about disrespect towards live players - I wouldn't say that's being disrespectful, I was simply stating my (rather naive) thought process behind why I chose to raise bigger than I usually would pre-flop in this hand, based on what people tell me about live Poker and me being fairly new to live Poker.

Don't fall into the sheep-like mentality of "all "Live" poker players are joke bad", it is bollox. It misses one crucial fact - the vast majority of "Live" players are also, & usually predominantly, Online players. Not so lolz then, as the story goes. They are, in the main, THE VERY SAME PLAYERS.

On Saturday, YOU were a "Live" player. That does not make you bad, or a lolpro.

Think for yourself Andy, swim against the tide. There are good & bad Live players, & good & bad Online players.

Respect for ALL players is, imo, crucial. Take liberties against so-called bad players, those who won't fold, & don't think Level 4, & you'll pay the price, big time.

[Evilpengwinz]

As someone who speaks to you often I'll comment.

I think The SPT was pretty well run, the wobbly table thing mentioned was rather annoying i must admit, would have hate to have got chips then suddenly the table wobbles and half of them are in the middle and im pot stuck with 72o. I didn't play cash so can't comment there and i think they stopped the Sit and Goes being run after a while.

While i think you may have benefited from joining me/others on the rail and having a good old drink i respect your decision to leave.

Broadway did well in my opinion, although i feel some things could have been better, i haven't spent alot of time at DTD due to location(and lack of a driving licence), but i feel even the self dealt game at my local casino often has better dealers than what was on offer. Thats not a critism though as one dealer who i thought was pretty bad said he was a reserve, thus i think the casino did make a pretty strong effort.

Once Tikay stopped shouting things, and the casino floor took over it was also impossible to hear who was being called. Again i won't complain.


I feel I've now been harsh here. I hope its came across as constructive.

I hope to see you at the 6 max for what its worth, maybe ill pick somewhere to eat this time around

I regret not sticking around to rail the final table, especially as there was a Team Diamond member and Clare on there too.

Just found your Diary Andy!

Not read it all, but only wanted to say one thing....

You owe me a Budweiser at the next SPT  


GL.....try not to get banned off this forum too  

 

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Somehow managed to fade paying for any rounds this time, so will definitely buy drinks next time I'm at an SPT Probably going to wait a week, decide whether I want to play or not, let the likes of MattBates and TommyD qualify (as they're more likely to qualify sooner), then hopefully play some satellites when the fields are slightly softer. Might satellite grind after that to cover expenses too.

[Tal]

Try playing chess in a working men's club on a Wednesday night on a wobbly table in the Black Country, where you can't get your legs under properly because of the shelf for your drink underneath, some of the pieces are from different sets, it's freezing cold and, to cap it all, they're starting some bingo next door for the oldies. Every twenty seconds, you get a slightly muffled "David's den: number ten...seven and six: was she worth it?"

I've played more live comps than I have online, I reckon. Or at least it's closer than most. So maybe I'm biased when I say 'behave!'

[celtic]

Baseball caps should be banned from poker, along with sunglasses.

[Knottikay]

Baseball caps should be banned from poker, along with sunglasses.

Amount of time I have taken shades to a live poker game - every time.
Amount of time I have actually wore the shades in a hand - never.
Amount of time I have worn them for the paparazzi (well, Tighty) - every time, unless he catches me out.

What next?......ban man bags FFS

[celtic]

Baseball caps should be banned from poker, along with sunglasses.

Why?

Ban hoodies also?

Because they are ridic. Hoodies are fine, but wearing the hood up.should be banned too. Most of the people who wear the hood up, don't actually know what they are trying to hide. They just saw it on WSOP 2007.

[claypole]

I'm to say I do not have one friend who would wear a hoody up while playing

[celtic]

Seriously jj, I see these guys in 25quid freezeouts, hoody up, glasses on, baseball cap covering their face, taking 2 mins to fold j4 o utg at 25/50. It's a joke. Barelyany decent players do that kinda shit any more.

[celtic]

I'm to say I do not have one friend who would wear a hoody up while playing
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And he is friends with ALL of the great UK players. Not just knows them to wave too, he has dinner with them and everything.

[claypole]

Stop derailing this diary - hadn't you better get to the Big Brother house you little Scottish tramp

[Young_gun]

Baseball caps should be banned from poker, along with sunglasses.

Amount of time I have taken shades to a live poker game - every time.
Amount of time I have actually wore the shades in a hand - never.
Amount of time I have worn them for the paparazzi (well, Tighty) - every time, unless he catches me out.

What next?......ban man bags FFS

LOL i did this in vegas, brought sunglasses to see if it made a difference but didnt use them at all. Dont think i ever will but if others do, thats up to them

Andy i half defended you on fb, but getting in JJ preflop is bad in that spot IMO, firstly as pointed out shouldn't really adjust your open without having some reason to eg. if they are calling light on the table and you have played a few hands and decide its optimal.

As its first hand of the day, im guessing you sort of levelled yourself getting all in pre which isn't awful as early on most of the field would hate to bust and you could even get QQ folded there in theory. But tbh one your 3 bet i would be folding, as its early it doesn't matter too much although it seems nitty especially to you/me, noone will know this but you and its better to sit and get a feeling of the table before making such plays.

I would flip the above if you knew a few on the table Fwiw, because then it isn't so bad.

Dont mind the hendon mob checking, but you have to where your name badge! that's part of the fun oh your evilpingu, it builds a good table for me. Both games i've played even people who think im aggro you just have to adjust, part of the game but next time leave it on and have some fun at the table. Hope to see you at the next DTD one, not 6 max as on holiday

[Evilpengwinz]

13th June update

I got absolutely owned tonight. Don't think I even played that bad for most of it, either.

Sky's MTT schedule isn't great, but it's definitely playable on a Thursday night, especially when I still have to try to qualify for the next SPT @ DTD (Will probably grind these once I've won a seat anyway). I played 8 tournaments - 5 Bounty Hunters, a £11 Rebuy (took a Rebuy at the start + Addon for £33 total), and 2 SPT satellites at £12 and £48 respectively.

I couldn't even manage a single bounty in the Bounty Hunters, even in the tournament where I finished 19th with 13 paid. Couldn't win any flips for a bounty vs shorter stacks once I'd accumulated chips either, which was frustrating as even though I didn't cash, it would've at least made my profit/loss for tonight look not quite as horrific. I'm reconsidering whether to bother with Bounty Hunters on Sky any more, because even though I know there's massive value in them, I don't particularly enjoy playing them, my results aren't great in them, and it's taking up a space for a cash table on my screen too.

SPT satellites were more of the same. One was basically a winner take all because there were 24 entrants and 1 seat, with a few quid for 2nd place. I got to the FT of this, but ended up going out in 5th. The other was me shoving 12bb with into a player who I had tagged as a nit, who then snapped me off with in a satellite. Maybe I need to tweak that note slightly!

The £11 rebuy was mega tilting. I built up a stack 3 times, only to lose it again to people getting there. Again, if I can hold and not lose spots where I'm a 95% favourite on the flop, I probably go on to cash, but that's Poker, and tonight was just one of them nights, unfortunately. Lost count the number of times I ended up saying "Hold!!! Hold!!! Oh, for f*** sake", lol. Despite the lack of cashes, I was still happy with how I played, which is the most important thing.

I was already -£165 on MTTs before I started playing cash, where I got coolered to death again. Looked through my Hand History quickly and there's only one hand which I'd play differently, on    in a limped pot where I've checked in the BB with    - I lead the flop, bet again on the turn and get check/minraised by a player tagged as a passive fish. I 3bet the turn and shove on the river for value, which was pretty spewy as I'm behind his range of hands. Obviously, given the action and my reads, I was never good and should've folded to the turn clickback.

That hand aside, there's not really anything that I think I should've done differently. Just run better tomorrow, hopefully.

Results 13th June
Online since last update: -£202.69
This month online: -£216.75, +$1.10
This month live: -£385.00
This month total: -£601.75, +$1.10
Sky Poker Points: 1,935/7,000 (= £19.35 rakeback)

Hand Counter
20NL hands played: 3,411 (+£226.17)
30NL hands played: 4,401 (-£181.27)

[The_Don90]

I watched your sat as had some interest in it. The same player bust me a couple of stages earlier limp calling with K9 sooted. I would say they where a nit in my experiance till that point, however on the bubble of the SPT sat you where in i think it was 3 seats and £176 for 4th, they snap called off a shove with 62 sooted, despite a player having 2BB elsewhere, turns out they wanted the money. So i assume, they where calling with 'equity' in spots because the reg'd the wrong thing at stage one, and just ran good through. Or at least thats the view I'll take until proven otherwise.

Unlucky in some of your other things, sounds like you ran pretty brutal throughout the day.

Hope to see you at the 6 max, and like you i will grind sats once i make it, so you won't be alone if the usual quaters complain.

[relaedgc]

Just want to weigh in momentarily. I don't want to de-rail your diary, but if you forgive my trespass I hope that it'll provide some insight for you.

Most Poker Rooms in the UK don't cater, on a daily basis, to 100+ runners. I run a busy Card Room and to be honest, I probably average out at around 60 runners a night. If I am hitting 100, that's a busy evening and they tend to strain resources because you're not typically prepared for it - you man your business to what you usually get, as opposed to always expecting more than you get.

When you're hosting something like the SPT, APAT etc, it requires you to find another 10/12 dealers to ensure that you can start at the beginning with 20 members of staff, plus all the extra staff needed to work a night shift. This is usually a challenge in and of itself. I'm still waiting for the day where every dealer turns in, and on time at that. By virtue of this increase in capacity you're going to use dealers that, for example, haven't dealt poker for years or they are newly trained.

While I am sure as a player at such an event you expect a certain level of quality, I do think it's worth appreciating that these businesses are doing their utmost to accommodate you and they're usually venues where these events are a far greater level of business, in attendance terms, compared to the norm.

So, yes, you inevitably get new dealers, some very rusty dealers and some gems in the rough. I think the important thing, though, is that in my experience both staff and customers alike get in to the spirit of the event and enjoy it for what it is - a social gathering, a bit of fun and theatre.

As for 'Pot Limit', I can deal the game and not stack the pot. The numbers can go into 5 digits and I'll still fire you the answer before you've finished pronouncing the word pot. That doesn't mean I don't have the odd moments where I go blank. It happens. Pot limit is very taxing on concentration and it's tough on dealers in these events where they are working all day, not getting many breaks and they're trying to keep it all fun and enjoyable for the benefit of everyone playing.

I've never played at the Broadway, but in my experience of SPT and APAT they're a wonderful group of people and they're generally forgiving and understanding of the extra effort these venues go to try and make their experience fun. I am sure the Broadway did their very best to make the event a success.

Regards,

George
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