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[GaryM]

Its probably a good thing to subscribe to a single governing body and have a defined set of rules with the ability to opt out of some. A bit like the European Union.

Err...no...wait... :$

[GaryM]

Chances of rule 11 being enforced are pretty much zero. Hope it is though.

Can't help but note the irony that they're promoting a mobile app so you can consult the rules on your phone

[Gazza]

Also rule 12.8 seems to contradict many of the rules under section 11.

12.8

To avoid all doubt: Players may not speak on the telephone while at the table, whether in a hand or not, and they must step away from the table to conduct their call.

a) iPads, eBooks, etc.: Players may use these devices, however not while in a hand, with the exception of audio.

b)  Laptops, Net books, Computers, etc.: Players may not use these devices at the table.

c)  There will be NO electronic devices permitted on any Featured, Televised or Final Table. Participants will be informed of any exceptions to this rule will be prior to   the start of the event.

11.2

All cell phones and other voice-enabled and “noise producing” electronic devices must be turned off during tournament play.

No cell phones or other electronic communication device can be placed on a poker table.

'Communication devices' are not permitted ON or AT the table at any time, whether the owner of the device is involved in a hand or not.

Unless they don't realise an iPad is a communications device. 

[mulhuzz]

Chances of rule 11 being enforced are pretty much zero. Hope it is though.

Can't help but note the irony that they're promoting a mobile app so you can consult the rules on your phone

#tapin #wp

[DTD-ACES]

Hi All

Thanks for your feedback, these rules take some reading

I was asked to make suggestions, after also consulting Danny / Darrren a total of 21 recommendations were made, 7 were left the same and 14 were edited / deleted resulting in the final version you see.

The idea is that rather than all card rooms / casinos having their own version of rules that can vary wildly we all adopt the International Rules but with the option to display local modifications, there are 81 rules, now some changes have been made i am happy for us to use them but there will be at least 6 that we will ignore / modify eg deduction of chips from starting stacks which we don't do.

At least if every operator agreed to abide by the majority of these rules in principal it would be a lot easier for players that travel to several venues across Europe / around the world each year.

Points that have been made on forums like this will help the panel of advisors going forward to update and modernise the rules in keeping with todays game.

Cheers

ACES

[Royal Flush]

At least if every operator agreed to abide by the majority of these rules in principal it would be a lot easier for players that travel to several venues across Europe / around the world each year.

I don't intend to slate the work being done here but a 'uniform set of rules' is a long long way down my list of priorities when it comes to travelling around the world playing poker tournaments.

The only things that tend to differ are last aggresor/left of button, whether a player has to be in his seat for first or last seat before his hand is dead. It really doesn't bother me which rules are in play tbh.

The only thing that grates me is silly phone rules, recently at the GPS i was moved twice to the 'feature' table and for some reason i suddenly wasn't allowed to use my phone which seems ridiculous.

I've played at DTD a fair few times before and never had a problem with any rule you or the team use Simon, nor have i heard of any stories of 'odd rules' DTD use so i don't quite understand why you want to change them?

[RED-DOG]

I hate it when I call someone and he insta-mucks, thereby depriving me of the information I've paid for.

Meanwhile, I have to show him my hand to win the pot.

[Royal Flush]

I hate it when I call someone and he insta-mucks, thereby depriving me of the information I've paid for.

Meanwhile, I have to show him my hand to win the pot.

I'm always just so happy i was right

[Sweetman]

I also think its ridiculous that OOP has to showdown 1st if there is no action on the river completely disregarding action on previous betting rounds.  Can anyone tell me how this makes sense as opposed to last aggressor in the entirety of the hand having to showdown 1st even if there are no aggressive actions?

I agree, they were enforcing this at the GPS, it just doesn't make sense.  So you call pre in the SB and c/c two decent size bets on the flop and turn. You check the river and the aggressor thinks better of it and decides not the fire the third barrel and checks behind, now YOU have to show first as you are left of the dealer button, its ridic!!

[Boba Fett]

I also think its ridiculous that OOP has to showdown 1st if there is no action on the river completely disregarding action on previous betting rounds.  Can anyone tell me how this makes sense as opposed to last aggressor in the entirety of the hand having to showdown 1st even if there are no aggressive actions?

I agree, they were enforcing this at the GPS, it just doesn't make sense.  So you call pre in the SB and c/c two decent size bets on the flop and turn. You check the river and the aggressor thinks better of it and decides not the fire the third barrel and checks behind, now YOU have to show first as you are left of the dealer button, its ridic!!

Yeah, the worst thing about this at GPS is that they changed it to this rule in season 2 from season 1 so someone must have actually suggested the change and everyone agreed to it.

[Royal Flush]

Odd when i was playing i checked a few times and as last aggressor showed first. Quite a bit of inconsistency in that tournament though.

[cambridgealex]

I hate it when I call someone and he insta-mucks, thereby depriving me of the information I've paid for.

Meanwhile, I have to show him my hand to win the pot.

This.

Only rule at DTD i would change.

And last aggressor should show first not left of the button imo

[Cf]

Last aggressor should be showing first irrespective of which street the last aggression came from.

Rule 11 is obviously daft. I can't believe that actually made it in there. I wouldn't blame anyone for getting up to it and thinking "wtf is this?" and dismissing the whole thing.

I don't like the showdown rule either.

I do think it is a good idea in principle. I'm also not totally against having local variations. That said, with the exception of rules that may have legal reasons I'm not sure why some local variations should exist. e.g. the phones rule and showdown rule should just be correct in the first place so venues don't have to alter them.

[outragous76]

I'm also not totally against having local variations.

Surely we have poker rules with local variation atm?

these rules are "just another set of rules" if you allow variation, and certainly dont standardise across the industry, which I believe was their intention

[Cf]

Here is what a showdown rule should look like

Showdown
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At showdown a player may show his hand to claim the pot or fold his hand and forfeit a claim to the pot. If a player elects to fold then his hand is dead.

Showdown is done in turn in a clockwise direction starting with the last person to perform aggressive action during the hand.

If at showdown there is only one player left with a live hand then they do not have to show their cards to claim the pot as they win it by virtue of being the last player standing.

Players may not request to see a folded hand. Players may however request for the floor to look at a folded hand if they believe there is a reason to do so.