Famous people who have achieved success way beyond their talent level

[AdamM]

I understand the motivation behind it Camel. Not a bad idea for a thread.
Just think it turned into people having a bitch about people doing better than they think they deserve.
And some very talented, hard working people too,

[The Camel]

I understand the motivation behind it Camel. Not a bad idea for a thread.
Just think it turned into people having a bitch about people doing better than they think they deserve.
And some very talented, hard working people too,

Serious question about Brian May.

Do you think he would have been successful and famous if he had never met Fredrick Bulsara?

Must admit I have a great deal more respect for John Deacon than Brian May or Roger Taylor.

Deacon just retired from the industry after Freddie died while May and Taylor keep on keeping on.

[david3103]

Blessed plays up the shouty "Gordon's alive" thing these days because it's what he's expected to do (i.e. when interviewed, they almost encourage him to behave like that, and he gets TV ad work to do exactly this).  He's making a nice pseudo-career from it.

If all you've ever seen of him is current stuff, Flash Gordon and Blackadder, then it's easy to see how you'd come to this conclusion, so I suppose it does illustrate the point you make above, to an extent.

Z Cars though. Fancy that.

The age-demographic of Blonde is too skewed toward youth for this to be widely appreciated, but I have to say that I literally snorted as I read it.

[AdamM]

Brian May is a phenomenal musician.
As well as being an extremely versatile guitarist who can play an incredible range of styles, he can turn his hand to any instrument he feels the songs need.

He was also years ahead of his time using tape delay echo.

Without that specific line up coming together, they'd probably all have gone on to excel in different fields, Freddie included. Brian May was a physisist wasn't he?

I'd argue Queen were the most interesting and versatile band you could ever hope to come across if you listen to the full catalogue.

[david3103]

Brian May is a phenomenal musician.
As well as being an extremely versatile guitarist who can play an incredible range of styles, he can turn his hand to any instrument he feels the songs need.

He was also years ahead of his time using tape delay echo.

Without that specific line up coming together, they'd probably all have gone on to excel in different fields, Freddie included. Brian May was a physisist wasn't he?

I'd argue Queen were the most interesting and versatile band you could ever hope to come across if you listen to the full catalogue.

ermmm The Beatles , The Who, Zeppelin, Cream, Pink Floyd, and oh so many more.
Although i will concede that Queen have a back catalogue of hook filled songs.

[Karabiner]

Just LOL at the guys giving opinions on subjective stuff like music.

[Claw75]

I think "famous people I don't like for no real reason" would be a better title for thread.

Meh, don't think that it's even that they dislike them in most cases.

How about - 'Celebrities who are much more successful than I think they should be'

Nailed it son.

@Adam. I'm afraid you're wrong as Queen are shit in every capacity.. (this is the point I am trying to make why I believe this is an utterly pointless thread and I wish I hadn't been suckered in) Nobody will win and nobody will change their mind.

I used you quite like you.
I'm afraid you're completely wrong about this.

I also wish I'd stuck to my intention not to get involved in this thread.

It feels like a conversation between a bunch of blokes that fell out of the ugly tree and hit their faces on every branch on the way down arguing about which supermodels they would or wouldn't bang, or fat old men who haven't ran more than 5 paces in their adult lives deciding which professional sportsmen are lazy, or armchair critics who've never been near a stage deciding which platinum selling musicians have any talent.

Big sigh

isn't that pretty much exactly the kind of threads we have here though?

[david3103]

Just LOL at the guys giving opinions on subjective stuff like music.

tba pretty much every judgement here is subjective

[maccol]

Blessed plays up the shouty "Gordon's alive" thing these days because it's what he's expected to do (i.e. when interviewed, they almost encourage him to behave like that, and he gets TV ad work to do exactly this).  He's making a nice pseudo-career from it.

If all you've ever seen of him is current stuff, Flash Gordon and Blackadder, then it's easy to see how you'd come to this conclusion, so I suppose it does illustrate the point you make above, to an extent.

Z Cars though. Fancy that.

The wordsmith strikes again.

[Marky147]

I think "famous people I don't like for no real reason" would be a better title for thread.

Meh, don't think that it's even that they dislike them in most cases.

How about - 'Celebrities who are much more successful than I think they should be'

Nailed it son.

@Adam. I'm afraid you're wrong as Queen are shit in every capacity.. (this is the point I am trying to make why I believe this is an utterly pointless thread and I wish I hadn't been suckered in) Nobody will win and nobody will change their mind.

I used you quite like you.
I'm afraid you're completely wrong about this.

I also wish I'd stuck to my intention not to get involved in this thread.

It feels like a conversation between a bunch of blokes that fell out of the ugly tree and hit their faces on every branch on the way down arguing about which supermodels they would or wouldn't bang, or fat old men who haven't ran more than 5 paces in their adult lives deciding which professional sportsmen are lazy, or armchair critics who've never been near a stage deciding which platinum selling musicians have any talent.

Big sigh

isn't that pretty much exactly the kind of threads we have here though?

Yeah, if you bang an 'in my opinion' on the end of the original title

[Ant040689]

Aaron Wilbraham

431 career games

80ish career goals

and despite his goals mostly coming during mk dons stay in the lower divisions has moved up the leagues

His hold up play and flick ons and aerial ability were much more than Murray was offering in his last ten games for us. Murray getting injured and him coming in got us up. Of course Zaha helped but Wilbraham was a big help too. He can't finish to save his life though and his footwork is abysmal.

He won't be playing anymore in the prem for us, but I could see him starting for a championship team this year, and think he would work well as a target man with someone with him in a front two.

Has he over-achieved? No. He was a number two in the championship all of last year and only had a handful of games. He probably will settle back into back up for a champo side which is definitely fair enough.

Plus that goalscoring record isn't terrible anyway!

I did mention Calvin Andrew earlier. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_Andrew

Any advance on 16 goals in 202?

[vegaslover]

John Motson
Murray Walker
Lars Ulrich
Michaela Tabb
George Lucas

Michaela Tabb? wtf

Yeah sure, she got  fast tracked in snooker reffing, but that was one of many changes to bring new blood to the game.
As a ref, she is imo the best in the green baize world. Handles the pressure/crowds/awkward players better than anyone else.
Look up any of the mosconi games she has reffed with Earl the Girl playing

[millidonk]

Just LOL at the guys giving opinions on subjective stuff like music.

Assuming this is a level?

[AdamM]

Brian May is a phenomenal musician.
As well as being an extremely versatile guitarist who can play an incredible range of styles, he can turn his hand to any instrument he feels the songs need.

He was also years ahead of his time using tape delay echo.

Without that specific line up coming together, they'd probably all have gone on to excel in different fields, Freddie included. Brian May was a physisist wasn't he?

I'd argue Queen were the most interesting and versatile band you could ever hope to come across if you listen to the full catalogue.

ermmm The Beatles , The Who, Zeppelin, Cream, Pink Floyd, and oh so many more.
Although i will concede that Queen have a back catalogue of hook filled songs.

None of those bands have anywhere near the range of material that Queen do.
They've done glam rock, a fantasy land concept album, rag time, Sea shanty folk, lounge Piano, hard rock and VERY hard rock, blues, heart breaking ballads, raw punk, disco, multiple film sound tracks, funk, and of course radio friendly pop rock.

[I KNOW IT]

Frank Bruno