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« on: September 26, 2013, 12:31:15 PM »

On the river of a hand with c 5k in the pot.
Blinds are 100/200
It's three way at this stage and first to act picks up a 5k chip, looks at the dealer and says "three" before he drops it over the line.
Dealer announces "three thousand" and second to act folds.
Last to act says "I could call for a ruling on that, is it three thousand or three hundred"
Bettor gets arsey and a ruling is called for...

How big is the river bet?

Is your answer different if the pot is <1000?
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« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2013, 12:43:25 PM »

On the river of a hand with c 5k in the pot.
Blinds are 100/200
It's three way at this stage and first to act picks up a 5k chip, looks at the dealer and says "three" before he drops it over the line.
Dealer announces "three thousand" and second to act folds.
Last to act says "I could call for a ruling on that, is it three thousand or three hundred"
Bettor gets arsey and a ruling is called for...

How big is the river bet?

Is your answer different if the pot is <1000?


This is good one David . Would like to see what the TD says about this . This will also stop Angle Shooting .
" I will call if it's 300 just to see what u have but will fold it it's 3000! "
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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 01:21:05 PM »

Should be 300.

Had exactly this situation at DTD a couple of months ago:

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=61862.msg1817258#msg1817258

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« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2013, 01:34:47 PM »

I'd like to add my voice to the Tal in angle shooting shock on the other thread.

So clearly intended as 3k, though can't say that is the ruling.
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« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2013, 01:37:23 PM »

I'd like to add my voice to the Tal in angle shooting shock on the other thread.

So clearly intended as 3k, though can't say that is the ruling.

You know when you post a link to a thread and you've forgotten how the thread ended?
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« Reply #5 on: September 26, 2013, 02:37:13 PM »

Surely the dealer asks "bettor is that 300 or 3000"

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« Reply #6 on: September 26, 2013, 02:39:35 PM »

3000 if pot is less than 2000 then 300
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« Reply #7 on: September 26, 2013, 03:31:23 PM »

if this is at DTD last time i checked its 300.

Another one of those rules that changes from casino to casino.
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« Reply #8 on: September 26, 2013, 05:22:06 PM »

seen this situation ISPT wembly  having busted I played the APAT event
blinds at the time were 50 and 100 I think  could have been less
player intends to bet river 3k ( approx. 75% pot sized bet ) says 3
well known player immediately asks for ruling   
we all know he intended it as 3k including player who asked for ruling
ruled as 300 called by both players 
player who asked for ruling takes pot with top pair
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« Reply #9 on: September 26, 2013, 07:38:50 PM »

seen this situation ISPT wembly  having busted I played the APAT event
blinds at the time were 50 and 100 I think  could have been less
player intends to bet river 3k ( approx. 75% pot sized bet ) says 3
well known player immediately asks for ruling   
we all know he intended it as 3k including player who asked for ruling
ruled as 300 called by both players 
player who asked for ruling takes pot with top pair


an anti-angle but not surprising given it was an APAT event.

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« Reply #10 on: September 26, 2013, 08:36:16 PM »

The correct ruling is when last to ask speaks an ejector seat activates shooting him out of the casino roof and into the carpark.
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« Reply #11 on: September 26, 2013, 09:25:54 PM »

seen this situation ISPT wembly  having busted I played the APAT event
blinds at the time were 50 and 100 I think  could have been less
player intends to bet river 3k ( approx. 75% pot sized bet ) says 3
well known player immediately asks for ruling   
we all know he intended it as 3k including player who asked for ruling
ruled as 300 called by both players 
player who asked for ruling takes pot with top pair


an anti-angle but not surprising given it was an APAT event.

No, I was on the table as well and it was very definitely an angle from a well known POS - he was trying to get to a cheap showdown.
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« Reply #12 on: September 26, 2013, 10:34:13 PM »

The correct ruling is when last to ask speaks an ejector seat activates shooting him out of the casino roof and into the carpark.

If only...

seen this situation ISPT wembly  having busted I played the APAT event
blinds at the time were 50 and 100 I think  could have been less
player intends to bet river 3k ( approx. 75% pot sized bet ) says 3
well known player immediately asks for ruling   
we all know he intended it as 3k including player who asked for ruling
ruled as 300 called by both players 
player who asked for ruling takes pot with top pair




an anti-angle but not surprising given it was an APAT event.

No, I was on the table as well and it was very definitely an angle from a well known POS - he was trying to get to a cheap showdown.

Disappointing in that context then.
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« Reply #13 on: September 26, 2013, 11:31:21 PM »

if this is at DTD last time i checked its 300.

Another one of those rules that changes from casino to casino.

happened yesterday in DTD and the dealer asked the player for clarification, seems obvious that this is the best thing to do
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 09:54:28 AM »

2nd to act folds when dealer announces 3000

Does that make a difference to the ruling being called 300 for last player considering 2nd player folded because he was told bet is 3000?

If ruling is made to be 300 can player 2 ask for his cards to be retrieved ?
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