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« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2013, 03:07:17 PM »

De Ja Vu today, started early again as I have a GPS satellite tonight.  Pretty proud of my record of being chip leader in 3 of the last 4 online ones and blowing it each time, man I suck!

Anyways, bricking all the stuff over $2 and killing everything small ball:

46/56 ITM in a $2 Ante up
66/172 ITM in a $1 turbo
95/1412/5784 in the $1.35 KO with 7 KO's

So in short, we need to FT one of these bad boys!  Double average in big $5.50 but a bit early for excitement.  Will probably only reg turbos now as need to be done by 7-8.

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« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2013, 04:36:52 PM »

Terrible play ultra rewarded, not sure I am raise folding but min click think I guess is a lot better but hey, just hit the ace, audible shouts of boom on that river

6/50/5887

PokerStars Hand #105249542395: Tournament #797368704, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (12500/25000) - 2013/10/09 16:26:35 WET [2013/10/09 11:26:35 ET]
Table '797368704 35' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: YouAreNotFre (261532 in chips)
Seat 2: McFly888 (199518 in chips)
Seat 3: vince6230 (128467 in chips)
Seat 4: vindiesel198 (506135 in chips)
Seat 6: Jodla111 (364715 in chips)
Seat 7: dimakyba (147112 in chips)
Seat 8: Rab90 (294772 in chips)
Seat 9: Cgjrjqyj (568361 in chips)
YouAreNotFre: posts the ante 2500
McFly888: posts the ante 2500
vince6230: posts the ante 2500
vindiesel198: posts the ante 2500
Jodla111: posts the ante 2500
dimakyba: posts the ante 2500
Rab90: posts the ante 2500
Cgjrjqyj: posts the ante 2500
Jodla111: posts small blind 12500
dimakyba: posts big blind 25000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rab90 [ ]
Rab90: raises 267272 to 292272 and is all-in
Cgjrjqyj: folds
YouAreNotFre: folds
McFly888: folds
vince6230: folds
vindiesel198: raises 211363 to 503635 and is all-in
Jodla111: folds
dimakyba: calls 119612 and is all-in
Uncalled bet (211363) returned to vindiesel198
*** FLOP *** [two spades ]
*** TURN *** [two spades ] [two hearts]
*** RIVER *** [two spades two hearts] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Rab90: shows [ ] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
vindiesel198: shows [ ] (two pair, Queens and Deuces)
Rab90 collected 295320 from side pot
dimakyba: shows [ ] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
Rab90 collected 466336 from main pot
Rab90 wins the $0.25 bounty for eliminating dimakyba
dimakyba finished the tournament in 53rd place and received $10.65.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 761656 Main pot 466336. Side pot 295320. | Rake 0
Board [two spades two hearts ]
Seat 1: YouAreNotFre folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: McFly888 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: vince6230 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: vindiesel198 (button) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Queens and Deuces
Seat 6: Jodla111 (small blind) folded before Flop
Seat 7: dimakyba (big blind) showed [ ] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 8: Rab90 showed [ ] and won (761656) with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 9: Cgjrjqyj folded before Flop (didn't bet)
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« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2013, 04:47:19 PM »

Meh 28th, AJ<K10 the lord giveth and the lord taketh away

Roll:  $559.21 with two hypers left
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« Reply #48 on: October 09, 2013, 05:25:13 PM »

Terrible play ultra rewarded, not sure I am raise folding but min click think I guess is a lot better but hey, just hit the ace, audible shouts of boom on that river

6/50/5887

PokerStars Hand #105249542395: Tournament #797368704, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (12500/25000) - 2013/10/09 16:26:35 WET [2013/10/09 11:26:35 ET]
Table '797368704 35' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: YouAreNotFre (261532 in chips)
Seat 2: McFly888 (199518 in chips)
Seat 3: vince6230 (128467 in chips)
Seat 4: vindiesel198 (506135 in chips)
Seat 6: Jodla111 (364715 in chips)
Seat 7: dimakyba (147112 in chips)
Seat 8: Rab90 (294772 in chips)
Seat 9: Cgjrjqyj (568361 in chips)
YouAreNotFre: posts the ante 2500
McFly888: posts the ante 2500
vince6230: posts the ante 2500
vindiesel198: posts the ante 2500
Jodla111: posts the ante 2500
dimakyba: posts the ante 2500
Rab90: posts the ante 2500
Cgjrjqyj: posts the ante 2500
Jodla111: posts small blind 12500
dimakyba: posts big blind 25000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rab90 [ ]


Standard jam, I think if you have thoughts that this is a 'terrible play' you need to seriously look into short-stack shoving/folding ranges. Either that or you're being very results orientated just because you've walked into QQ and KK. Either way, i'd advise looking into it.
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« Reply #49 on: October 09, 2013, 05:28:57 PM »

Also i'd advise chucking in some 45/90/180-man SnGs or something into your schedule, just because they're lower variance....  playing just comps with 1000's of runners in could get a bit demoralising as it's pretty hard to realise your long-term EV in them. Plus we all love just making a few FTs regardless of what's up top.

EDIT: Just realised this isn't part of the terms of the OP and i'm not an investor, so ignore that
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« Reply #50 on: October 09, 2013, 05:37:11 PM »

Terrible play ultra rewarded, not sure I am raise folding but min click think I guess is a lot better but hey, just hit the ace, audible shouts of boom on that river

6/50/5887

PokerStars Hand #105249542395: Tournament #797368704, $1.00+$0.25+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXVII (12500/25000) - 2013/10/09 16:26:35 WET [2013/10/09 11:26:35 ET]
Table '797368704 35' 9-max Seat #4 is the button
Seat 1: YouAreNotFre (261532 in chips)
Seat 2: McFly888 (199518 in chips)
Seat 3: vince6230 (128467 in chips)
Seat 4: vindiesel198 (506135 in chips)
Seat 6: Jodla111 (364715 in chips)
Seat 7: dimakyba (147112 in chips)
Seat 8: Rab90 (294772 in chips)
Seat 9: Cgjrjqyj (568361 in chips)
YouAreNotFre: posts the ante 2500
McFly888: posts the ante 2500
vince6230: posts the ante 2500
vindiesel198: posts the ante 2500
Jodla111: posts the ante 2500
dimakyba: posts the ante 2500
Rab90: posts the ante 2500
Cgjrjqyj: posts the ante 2500
Jodla111: posts small blind 12500
dimakyba: posts big blind 25000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rab90 [ ]


Standard jam, I think if you have thoughts that this is a 'terrible play' you need to seriously look into short-stack shoving/folding ranges. Either that or you're being very results orientated just because you've walked into QQ and KK. Either way, i'd advise looking into it.

Thanks, I guess was sort of results orientated and a little sarcastic with everyones favourite thread lol, out of interest how much before the A10 becomes a min click rather than a jam?  14-15BB? 

On the 180 mans I would need to work on my ranges and probably get some coaching on the games, as its not really my bag.  I am tangling with averages 2000 runners but one decent FT and the roll is back, so you lose $50-$100 dollars on a bad day but you dont risk a $200-$300 brick day which volume grinding the 180s can do.  See how it goes but all feedback gratefully received
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« Reply #51 on: October 09, 2013, 05:45:31 PM »

I didnt mean grinding the 180s just on their own, I just meant play 1 or 2 in your schedule so it's not just massive field comps, more sweats etc. There's not really much different strat involved compared to the stuff you're currently playing.

As for the ATo, i'd probably be jamming up to 13bb, 14-22bb is a kinda grey area... some would fold with 14-22bb UTG, others would r/f. It depends a bit on other stacks at the table, if you're going to get peeled a load etc. I mostly play $20+ MTTs where you're going to get a min-open through quite a lot out of 16bb say UTG, so I can r/f some stuff, but in some of the softer comps I play i'm generally jamming/folding UTG with anything <18bb (unless i've got it, lol balance...)

For example in this hand if you were playing 17bb i'd probably min-open and call vs seats 2,3,7 (possibly 1), but fold to the rest if they jam. As you're playing 6 tables you should be able to build up a reasonable idea of which players are capable of jamming light and which will be really nutted, you get some real extremes in these comps
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« Reply #52 on: October 09, 2013, 06:07:14 PM »

I didnt mean grinding the 180s just on their own, I just meant play 1 or 2 in your schedule so it's not just massive field comps, more sweats etc. There's not really much different strat involved compared to the stuff you're currently playing.

As for the ATo, i'd probably be jamming up to 13bb, 14-22bb is a kinda grey area... some would fold with 14-22bb UTG, others would r/f. It depends a bit on other stacks at the table, if you're going to get peeled a load etc. I mostly play $20+ MTTs where you're going to get a min-open through quite a lot out of 16bb say UTG, so I can r/f some stuff, but in some of the softer comps I play i'm generally jamming/folding UTG with anything <18bb (unless i've got it, lol balance...)

For example in this hand if you were playing 17bb i'd probably min-open and call vs seats 2,3,7 (possibly 1), but fold to the rest if they jam. As you're playing 6 tables you should be able to build up a reasonable idea of which players are capable of jamming light and which will be really nutted, you get some real extremes in these comps

Thanks Tom, this is all really useful! The joy of MTT's
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« Reply #53 on: October 09, 2013, 06:20:19 PM »

I didnt mean grinding the 180s just on their own, I just meant play 1 or 2 in your schedule so it's not just massive field comps, more sweats etc. There's not really much different strat involved compared to the stuff you're currently playing.

As for the ATo, i'd probably be jamming up to 13bb, 14-22bb is a kinda grey area... some would fold with 14-22bb UTG, others would r/f. It depends a bit on other stacks at the table, if you're going to get peeled a load etc. I mostly play $20+ MTTs where you're going to get a min-open through quite a lot out of 16bb say UTG, so I can r/f some stuff, but in some of the softer comps I play i'm generally jamming/folding UTG with anything <18bb (unless i've got it, lol balance...)

For example in this hand if you were playing 17bb i'd probably min-open and call vs seats 2,3,7 (possibly 1), but fold to the rest if they jam. As you're playing 6 tables you should be able to build up a reasonable idea of which players are capable of jamming light and which will be really nutted, you get some real extremes in these comps

Thanks Tom, this is all really useful! The joy of MTT's

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« Reply #54 on: October 09, 2013, 06:35:03 PM »

I didnt mean grinding the 180s just on their own, I just meant play 1 or 2 in your schedule so it's not just massive field comps, more sweats etc. There's not really much different strat involved compared to the stuff you're currently playing.

As for the ATo, i'd probably be jamming up to 13bb, 14-22bb is a kinda grey area... some would fold with 14-22bb UTG, others would r/f. It depends a bit on other stacks at the table, if you're going to get peeled a load etc. I mostly play $20+ MTTs where you're going to get a min-open through quite a lot out of 16bb say UTG, so I can r/f some stuff, but in some of the softer comps I play i'm generally jamming/folding UTG with anything <18bb (unless i've got it, lol balance...)

For example in this hand if you were playing 17bb i'd probably min-open and call vs seats 2,3,7 (possibly 1), but fold to the rest if they jam. As you're playing 6 tables you should be able to build up a reasonable idea of which players are capable of jamming light and which will be really nutted, you get some real extremes in these comps

Thanks Tom, this is all really useful! The joy of MTT's

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« Reply #55 on: October 10, 2013, 10:34:02 AM »

Back on it this morning, will play 10 till 7 and regging accordingly.  Got football and may come back for late night turbos if I am feeling fresh....Let's go
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« Reply #56 on: October 10, 2013, 02:47:14 PM »

Another day of cashing every 1$ tournies and struggling elsewhere #knowyourlevel, the sweats be a coming though!

Just saw an e-mail for MTOPS, going to move some $ to FTP (same username) to play some events.  Assume everyone is cool with that! Seems a no brainer on a micro MTT stake, but as the stake says Stars only let me know if any problems.  Would be pretty cold to bink $10k playing a micro on another site!
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« Reply #57 on: October 10, 2013, 02:59:19 PM »

Don't have a problem with this but will go with majority obv
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« Reply #58 on: October 10, 2013, 03:04:08 PM »

Well that sucked! Gotta love the Q6 deciding the cold 4b was light I <3 $1 turbos

PokerStars Hand #105292578641: Tournament #797370294, $1.00+$0.10 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XXII (1000/2000) - 2013/10/10 14:54:31 WET [2013/10/10 9:54:31 ET]
Table '797370294 185' 6-max Seat #6 is the button
Seat 1: Rab90 (30745 in chips)
Seat 2: XDucs (62548 in chips)
Seat 3: angryman74 (32166 in chips)
Seat 4: FHM88 (81568 in chips)
Seat 5: Denisss1982 (106020 in chips)
Seat 6: mainantoni (60425 in chips)
Rab90: posts the ante 250
XDucs: posts the ante 250
angryman74: posts the ante 250
FHM88: posts the ante 250
Denisss1982: posts the ante 250
mainantoni: posts the ante 250
Rab90: posts small blind 1000
XDucs: posts big blind 2000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Rab90 [ ]
angryman74: folds
FHM88: raises 2000 to 4000
Denisss1982: calls 4000
mainantoni: raises 8985 to 12985
Rab90: raises 17510 to 30495 and is all-in
XDucs: folds
FHM88: folds
Denisss1982: calls 26495
mainantoni: raises 29680 to 60175 and is all-in
Denisss1982: calls 29680
*** FLOP *** [ As ]
*** TURN *** [ As ] [two spades]
*** RIVER *** [ As two spades] []
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Denisss1982: shows [ ] (a flush, Queen high)
mainantoni: shows [ Ah] (a flush, Ace high)
mainantoni collected 59360 from side pot
Rab90: shows [ ] (three of a kind, Aces)
mainantoni collected 98985 from main pot
Rab90 finished the tournament in 173rd place and received $3.20.
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 158345 Main pot 98985. Side pot 59360. | Rake 0
Board [ As two spades ]
Seat 1: Rab90 (small blind) showed [ ] and lost with three of a kind, Aces
Seat 2: XDucs (big blind) folded before Flop
Seat 3: angryman74 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: FHM88 folded before Flop
Seat 5: Denisss1982 showed [ ] and lost with a flush, Queen high
Seat 6: mainantoni (button) showed [ Ah] and won (158345) with a flush, Ace high
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« Reply #59 on: October 10, 2013, 03:07:13 PM »

Obv happy with whatever!

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