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Eso Kral
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Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 01:40:45 PM »
Same tourney as other hand so £200 live and we have chipped up without showdown to 45k from 30k and in the last 45mins Sam Razavi has sat down and been splashing around.
Villain 1 - Fairly tight, mid/late 30s smart in appearance and has played with a cpl of people who play the circuit as I heard in conversation. 30k at start of hand
Villain 2 - Sam Razavi 22500
Blinds 150/300
Villain 1 opens utg2 to 700, Sam peels next to act all fold to us in BB with
and I peel. Sometimes I feel this is a leak of mine but maybe not as much in this spot?
Flop
(2250)
I chk, villain1 1700, sam calls, I call
Turn
(7350)
I chk, villain1 chks, Sam bets 2700, I call, villain1 folds.
Anyone chk raising here or taking the price?
River
(12750)
Sam has 17400 back. I check
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November 19, 2013, 01:46:46 PM »
Like it all.
Loving life pre btw
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celtic
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 01:48:14 PM »
I actually like it all. That can't be right?
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 01:49:58 PM »
I defo don't think its a leak in any way, shape or form to peel this deep and relative positon
I play it the same way and c/eyeball river. Personally not c/ring turn on this board. His turn sizing is kinda small and I don't think he is massively strong, esp with your splashing around comment, though he is probably good enough to know this
I guess you COULD bomb river for a decent amount but I dunno if he would believe you were blasting a missed draw?
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November 19, 2013, 02:01:33 PM »
Your getting a fair amount of check backs I'd imagine but when you do get paid you could well get stacks. Seems fair.
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November 19, 2013, 02:02:45 PM »
seems like the nut spot to lead the river, def calling pre
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 02:06:02 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on November 19, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
seems like the nut spot to lead the river, def calling pre
Just realised he rivered a straight! I don't mind checking, Sam looks really strong and is going to bet all 2 pairs. Problem is he's going to fold to a check jam most of the time because it looks hilariously strong unless OP's image is crazy.
Certainly an argument for betting the river but otherwise I think hand is played good.
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November 19, 2013, 02:08:21 PM »
Quote from: TL900 on November 19, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
seems like the nut spot to lead the river, def calling pre
Why nut spot? People don't actually bluff all that often with a c/call c/call donk line when the FD misses. And vlikely Eso will have SDV will missed draw anyway given the board so I don't think Sam will see it as a bluff.
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 02:22:35 PM »
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 19, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: TL900 on November 19, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
seems like the nut spot to lead the river, def calling pre
Why nut spot? People don't actually bluff all that often with a c/call c/call donk line when the FD misses. And vlikely Eso will have SDV will missed draw anyway given the board so I don't think Sam will see it as a bluff.
Sam doesnt know us right? and with that tache we are gona look like a massive punter
. Also his sizing ott makes his range so 1 pair heavy thats checking back the river a ton imo and how many value hands can we actually have that play like this? I also dont expect him to go round making hero folds in a 200 freeze
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Eso Kral
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Quote from: TL900 on November 19, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
Quote from: cambridgealex on November 19, 2013, 02:08:21 PM
Quote from: TL900 on November 19, 2013, 02:02:45 PM
seems like the nut spot to lead the river, def calling pre
Why nut spot? People don't actually bluff all that often with a c/call c/call donk line when the FD misses. And vlikely Eso will have SDV will missed draw anyway given the board so I don't think Sam will see it as a bluff.
Sam doesnt know us right? and with that tache we are gona look like a massive punter
. Also his sizing ott makes his range so 1 pair heavy thats checking back the river a ton imo and how many value hands can we actually have that play like this? I also dont expect him to go round making hero folds in a 200 freeze
Sam may not recognize us with the tache but knows us from a few UKIPT's we played and we have spoken about his brothers so we are not completely unknown
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 02:30:11 PM »
how big ott till we fold?
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Quote from: TightEnd on December 16, 2013, 12:59:59 AM
Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 02:38:52 PM »
Quote from: pleno1 on November 19, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
how big ott till we fold?
The bigger the bet the more likely it is we get paid. ~5k?
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 02:48:51 PM »
Seems fine to me, might lead for like 4.5k looking for a call of a weaker A, think Sam has A10 here alot, but prolly check a fair amount of the time too.
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Eso Kral
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November 19, 2013, 02:52:31 PM »
Quote from: rfgqqabc on November 19, 2013, 02:38:52 PM
Quote from: pleno1 on November 19, 2013, 02:30:11 PM
how big ott till we fold?
The bigger the bet the more likely it is we get paid. ~5k?
Yh in this particular spot I have quite a lot of chips so can maybe call not getting exactly the right price knowing we are getting stacks on rivers if we hit so was thinking around 5k
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Re: Leak Pre? Line otherwise
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November 19, 2013, 03:31:58 PM »
If I really thought about it, I would bet the river and make it look like the missed flush draw. We never get called with a check raise, so we are better off betting more. That would be my logic, anyway.
In Sam's spot, what would you bet/call with?
Will say you've played this hand better than I would have (natch...)
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