Marine sent to prison

[celtic]

A blinkered shite bag? Classy.

He has stated he has no time for mcguiness/Adams. But has rightly pointed out that the British army have been guilty of some atrocious acts of violence and killing. That's fact. Not blinkered thinking.

I watched the panorama programme too, it was given from the point of special forces. They admitted a lot of the stuff they done, wasn't quite legal.

special forces are not quite your average joe squaddie there are less than 200 men in the special forces at one time,
also panaroma is a program with an agenda the people involved in the making
of that program are not always who they say they are and also will exaggerate too make make tv
this is hardly indication of widespread murder by the british army.

And you know this how?

He gave a good example of Bloody Sunday, were normal soldiers done despicable things.

[Ironside]

bloody sunday was one event where a handfull of men tarnished the 100's of thousands of men who served in Ireland without committing a crime
men who had too put up with risking life and limb every minute of every day at the hands or people who murdered for political gain

you know that the people interviewed by panaroma were ex special forces and were telling the truth how?
well i can tell you 100% there is no way panaroma or any other media outlet knows this for a fact as
the MOD will not ever confirm or deny who served in the SAS and the only way people are named ex SAS
are by there stories like the andy mcnab "i am god" "rest of my patrol were useless" exaggeration

[celtic]

bloody sunday was one event where a handfull of men tarnished the 100's of thousands of men who served in Ireland without committing a crime
men who had too put up with risking life and limb every minute of every day at the hands or people who murdered for political gain

you know that the people interviewed by panaroma were ex special forces and were telling the truth how?
well i can tell you 100% there is no way panaroma or any other media outlet knows this for a fact as
the MOD will not ever confirm or deny who served in the SAS and the only way people are named ex SAS
are by there stories like the andy mcnab "i am god" "rest of my patrol were useless" exaggeration

Bloody Sunday wasn't the only event in Ireland that cause outrage. There are countless stories from there and other countries, readily available.

Anyway, I can't be arsed going back and forward with this, my point was this isn't the first time soldiers have been caught doing stuff they shouldn't have done. And I agree, there are plenty of good ones, that outweigh the bad.

[BangBang]

What Ironside is trying to say (correct me if I'm wrong) that the media publish things to serve a purpose and political ideology is usually built upon it, hence the comment about Panorama. We all know and understand media serves to propagate certain things and embellish others.

JonMW put it better then I possibly could with his response to the emotive post by Kmac..

Agree with Celtic, Ironside needs to evidence his argument or bow out gracefully.. (And less of the open insults  )

 

[Kmac84]

bloody sunday was one event where a handfull of men

Really?

Bloody Sunday aside what about Peter McBride, Aiden McAnespie, Julie Livingston, Daniel Rooney, Majella O'hare. The list goes on.

Now I know there have been atrocities by other groups but the Army are supposed to be above some actions.

[Kmac84]

John MW is probably right about my political leanings I would be left of centre, not so much socialist but value the rights of individuals regardless of where they are from. But my opinions on this situation is formed from having spent much time in Ireland in my formative years.

I think I have made my point and will bow out now.

[Geo the Sarge]

bloody sunday was one event where a handfull of men tarnished the 100's of thousands of men who served in Ireland without committing a crime
men who had too put up with risking life and limb every minute of every day at the hands or people who murdered for political gain

you know that the people interviewed by panaroma were ex special forces and were telling the truth how?
well i can tell you 100% there is no way panaroma or any other media outlet knows this for a fact as
the MOD will not ever confirm or deny who served in the SAS and the only way people are named ex SAS
are by there stories like the andy mcnab "i am god" "rest of my patrol were useless" exaggeration

Bloody Sunday wasn't the only event in Ireland that cause outrage. There are countless stories from there and other countries, readily available.

Anyway, I can't be arsed going back and forward with this, my point was this isn't the first time soldiers have been caught doing stuff they shouldn't have done. And I agree, there are plenty of good ones, that outweigh the bad.

And you know this how? 

Geo

[celtic]

bloody sunday was one event where a handfull of men tarnished the 100's of thousands of men who served in Ireland without committing a crime
men who had too put up with risking life and limb every minute of every day at the hands or people who murdered for political gain

you know that the people interviewed by panaroma were ex special forces and were telling the truth how?
well i can tell you 100% there is no way panaroma or any other media outlet knows this for a fact as
the MOD will not ever confirm or deny who served in the SAS and the only way people are named ex SAS
are by there stories like the andy mcnab "i am god" "rest of my patrol were useless" exaggeration

Bloody Sunday wasn't the only event in Ireland that cause outrage. There are countless stories from there and other countries, readily available.

Anyway, I can't be arsed going back and forward with this, my point was this isn't the first time soldiers have been caught doing stuff they shouldn't have done. And I agree, there are plenty of good ones, that outweigh the bad.

And you know this how? 

Geo

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