villians range?

[polerization]

PokerStars Hand #108347631264: Tournament #831366547, $3.19+$0.31 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XII (500/1000) - 2013/12/11 3:13:04 UTC [2013/12/10 22:13:04 ET]
Table '831366547 20' 9-max Seat #1 is the button
Seat 1: polerization (18634 in chips)
Seat 2: Guillaume278 (18283 in chips)
Seat 3: jhammond10 (11433 in chips)
Seat 4: guimatraira (2209 in chips) is sitting out
Seat 5: LuckyGever (44520 in chips)
Seat 6: zenzorita20 (17314 in chips)
Seat 7: acac35 (19286 in chips)
Seat 8: BigMouse08 (12620 in chips)
polerization: posts the ante 100
Guillaume278: posts the ante 100
jhammond10: posts the ante 100
guimatraira: posts the ante 100
LuckyGever: posts the ante 100
zenzorita20: posts the ante 100
acac35: posts the ante 100
BigMouse08: posts the ante 100
Guillaume278: posts small blind 500
jhammond10: posts big blind 1000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to polerization [XX]
guimatraira: folds
LuckyGever: calls 1000
zenzorita20: folds
acac35: folds
BigMouse08: folds
polerization: raises 1457 to 2457
Guillaume278: folds
jhammond10: folds
LuckyGever: calls 1457
*** FLOP *** [ ]
LuckyGever: checks
polerization: bets 3657
LuckyGever: raises 3657 to 7314
whats his range when he clicks it back, he has been fairly active.

[SuuPRlim]

Firstly, this is very shallow, so it kinda puts the whole thing on a bit of a skew. I'm not sure what you had to open to 2457 with but I really hope it was AA/KK/QQ/JJ as I think with anything else you prolly just want to be all-in with 18 big blinds? Monda or someone will know better. Defo seems like too shallow a stack size to be taking him down the streets with.

As for his range OTF, who knows, seems V unlikely he's folding and I have no idea if his MinRaise here indicates a very strong hand, a weak hand or it's exactly the same as going all-in he just messing about a bit (this happens very often, at all levels of the game) as we're dealing with shallow stacks, we're having to do a bit of guesswork I'd len towards a default strategy of classifying this as an ALL-IN from him as it seems VERY unlikely he'll fold, so if you were planning to be alll-in on the flop then continue to be all-in. If for some reason you're not planning to be all-i non this flop then you've made a bad mistake (prolly pre-flop) as now you have to fold with 40-45% of your stack out there.

[Rexas]

I gotta say I agree with dave, and this seems like a great spot to jam our 18bbs in and add over 3bbs to our stack with pretty much everything we're gonna be raising with here. Even with a pretty nutted hand I still tend to lean towards a shove pre, and I certainly wouldn't want to be raising a cbetting with a hand that isnt AA, KK or QQ. Attempting to bluff here post seems a little spewey, as we're basically giving up nearly half our already short stack to any resistance. Would need considerably more information on villain to properly assign a range, but it could be pretty wide here. Doubt its a draw given that it's a click back, more likely to be a set than anything, but the whole hand looks pretty weird to me and the weird situation is saved by just ramming dem discs in his eye pre.

[SuuPRlim]

Doubt its a draw given that it's a click back, more likely to be a set than anything

I think 65s/QT all just as likely. S

[lucky_scrote]

You can iso with hands that flop well but are less profitable to jam like JT J9s. See fish spite call with A5 and stuff sometimes so I'm more inclined to jam ATo/small and med pairs here.

Villains range is guess work, given he's not got many chips back it's more likely he's got a queen here but you see some really hilarious things in these $3.50r/180's. I probably just about get a5 in here. Dunno what I do with 66-JJ though, all those hands are pretty much the same and I'd obv rather have A5 here.

[polerization]

Doubt its a draw given that it's a click back, more likely to be a set than anything

I think 65s/QT all just as likely. S

this was the question to be honest does he only have a nutted range when he clicks it back e.g 55/33 or like 53 or axdd found it really hard for a hand to beat thought he could be doing it with QJ/Q10 and spewing as he was a massive fish. I had AQss would you ship over the min? same would you ship pre? i had like 18BB think i can raise then c-bet for value a lot this strong?

[OverTheBorder]

Doubt its a draw given that it's a click back, more likely to be a set than anything

I think 65s/QT all just as likely. S

this was the question to be honest does he only have a nutted range when he clicks it back e.g 55/33 or like 53 or axdd found it really hard for a hand to beat thought he could be doing it with QJ/Q10 and spewing as he was a massive fish. I had AQss would you ship over the min? same would you ship pre? i had like 18BB think i can raise then c-bet for value a lot this strong?

AQ? My chips would not touch sides, fist pump jam

[lucky_scrote]

AQs is kinda close whether to jam or not because it is so strong. I'd be tempted to jam as people sometimes spite call KQ KJ Ax hands.

On the flop, c'mon now, you've got the nuts with 18bb eff stacks...

[polerization]

AQs is kinda close whether to jam or not because it is so strong. I'd be tempted to jam as people sometimes spite call KQ KJ Ax hands.

On the flop, c'mon now, you've got the nuts with 18bb eff stacks...

I know it's obv standard i have the nuts when the flop comes, i was just asking because when he clicks i just asume he has a set got it in and he had 5's. Just thought it was cold deck with stack sizes, pretty much lose all my chips any route i take this hand?

[Ragz]

I'm just flatting. Don't see much sense jamming and folding out weirdo bluffs.