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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2014, 06:52:53 PM »

The law says licensed premises should refuse alcohol for drunk/disorderly patrons so bouncers refusing your drink back is their legal responsibility. I figure if you punch somebody then immediate ejection is perfectly fine. The law is more consistent than a casino making up their house rules when it suits. If poker man dropped big money in the casino every friday night there would be no disco.
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2014, 06:59:04 PM »

The law says licensed premises should refuse alcohol for drunk/disorderly patrons so bouncers refusing your drink back is their legal responsibility. I figure if you punch somebody then immediate ejection is perfectly fine. The law is more consistent than a casino making up their house rules when it suits. If poker man dropped big money in the casino every friday night there would be no disco.

So we agree it is the casino's choice
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2014, 07:12:41 PM »

i think if you decide to crumple cards up because you took a beat and then berate the floor etc you can't be surprised if you get ejected.

would i have ejected him? depends how much he was ranting/if i warned him first etc but maybe not. regardless, the fact that he seems to be blaming others for direct consequences of his own actions makes me think the disco is probably fair.
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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2014, 08:35:47 PM »

So, are they going to everyone that acts like a dick at the poker table?

Obviously the card ripping/crumpling thing is out of order, but is it really that much worse than berating a dealer or standing over the table screaming for a card when you are all in with AK v JJ?
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2014, 08:45:57 PM »

So, are they going to everyone that acts like a dick at the poker table?

Obviously the card ripping/crumpling thing is out of order, but is it really that much worse than berating a dealer or standing over the table screaming for a card when you are all in with AK v JJ?


Not worse than A but worse than B.
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2014, 10:42:19 PM »

So, are they going to everyone that acts like a dick at the poker table?

Obviously the card ripping/crumpling thing is out of order, but is it really that much worse than berating a dealer or standing over the table screaming for a card when you are all in with AK v JJ?


Not worse than A but worse than B.

absolutely right .i  am guilty of standing over a table after three or four  too many pints and calling for a card that i would like to see. yeah in the cold light of day i obviously regret doing so due to looking like silly.not the end of the world.

if i ever berated a dealer ,  which simply wouldnt happen, i would be too ashamed too go back there to play cards again.

as for eating my hole cards that would depend where i was playing and what was on the menu.

at dtd i guess it would be 50/50 or possibly 60/40 if the veg curry was all that was available.






disclaimer... never played or eaten cards at dtd, but willing to try on a 70/30 basis.
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« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2014, 10:48:14 PM »

as long as pudding is included .
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2014, 12:08:43 AM »

as long as pudding is included .

I'll have it in a bagel
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2014, 09:40:20 AM »

i think if you decide to crumple cards up because you took a beat and then berate the floor etc you can't be surprised if you get ejected.

would i have ejected him? depends how much he was ranting/if i warned him first etc but maybe not. regardless, the fact that he seems to be blaming others for direct consequences of his own actions makes me think the disco is probably fair.

yeah, people should always be held responsible for the direct consequences of their own actions (like throwing people off roofs) Wink
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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2014, 09:57:12 AM »

i think if you decide to crumple cards up because you took a beat and then berate the floor etc you can't be surprised if you get ejected.

would i have ejected him? depends how much he was ranting/if i warned him first etc but maybe not. regardless, the fact that he seems to be blaming others for direct consequences of his own actions makes me think the disco is probably fair.

yeah, people should always be held responsible for the direct consequences of their own actions (like throwing people off roofs) Wink

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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2014, 10:21:30 AM »

Obviously unsociable behaviour needs to be addressed by the operator because it's detrimental to the business. That said I don't think disqualification is the right solution for a couple of reasons.

Far from just you doing this, but how any of us know whether it was the right call in this particular case is beyond me. We can only really debate the general principle, which I appreciate you've done afterwards...

If a guy is acting the clown on roulette do you ban him from the casino and tell him to leave his stacks on the table? Or is he allowed to take his money with him? So disco the poker dude if you must but refund the entrance fee and dole out a lengthy ban.


This is completely different, though, because the transaction has been completed: he exchanged money for his entry to the comp. What he has in front of him is tournament chips, which have no cash value.

If I were playing cash and acted inappropriately, I would be asked to leave and would not have to leave my money behind; I'd get it cashed and encouraged to find somewhere else to limp-call it off

If you thumped someone in a nightclub, you would be hard-pressed to convince the bouncers you should be allowed back to the dance floor to finish your liqueur.

Doesn't it just come back to 'Don't act like a donut or someone might treat you like one'?

Who the hell drinks liqueurs in a nightclub!?

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« Reply #26 on: May 25, 2014, 12:56:50 PM »

I think the poker scene would be far friendlier and hospitable to recreational/new players if behaviour like this was consistently punished. If you're rude and abusive I absolutely believe you should be disqualified.

If you're unhappy about something, there are ways and means of highlighting your displeasure that don't require you to destroy property or abuse the floor staff. Do so and then you are at fault for the consequence.
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« Reply #27 on: May 25, 2014, 01:03:09 PM »

I think the poker scene would be far friendlier and hospitable to recreational/new players if behaviour like this was consistently punished. If you're rude and abusive I absolutely believe you should be disqualified.

If you're unhappy about something, there are ways and means of highlighting your displeasure that don't require you to destroy property or abuse the floor staff. Do so and then you are at fault for the consequence.

I agree players that are deliberately disruptive should receive punishment.
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« Reply #28 on: May 25, 2014, 01:09:50 PM »

I think the poker scene would be far friendlier and hospitable to recreational/new players if behaviour like this was consistently punished. If you're rude and abusive I absolutely believe you should be disqualified.

If you're unhappy about something, there are ways and means of highlighting your displeasure that don't require you to destroy property or abuse the floor staff. Do so and then you are at fault for the consequence.

To be fair, eating the cards at the g, is more tastier than most things on the menu.
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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2014, 01:26:44 PM »

I think the poker scene would be far friendlier and hospitable to recreational/new players if behaviour like this was consistently punished. If you're rude and abusive I absolutely believe you should be disqualified.

If you're unhappy about something, there are ways and means of highlighting your displeasure that don't require you to destroy property or abuse the floor staff. Do so and then you are at fault for the consequence.

To be fair, eating the cards at the g, is more tastier than most things on the menu.

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