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« on: July 08, 2014, 03:58:18 PM »

Half an hour into day 2 of this weekend's £250 deepstack. I returned with 320k, now got 295k. Average is ~220k

Table is ok, couple of tough spots, very mixed though i'd say.

Blinds are 2500/5000 a 500

I make it 12k UTG +2 with  

I get one caller in the BB. Not played a hand so far but it is only 3rd orbit.

Flop is  

BB checks, i make it 15k.

BB fairly quickly after short dwell makes it 32k from his stack of ~115K.

WWYD? Flat and evaluate, jam, fold?
What is my opponents range?
Thoughts on turn bet size?
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 04:14:01 PM »

fold and wait to flop bottom set against a mug like me who flops top 2 and barrel all three streets!!!  Was good to meet you at the weekend Junior all joking aside.  I am always seeing the turn card here with top top and a back door flush door.  Loads of equity to potentially pick up on the turn for such a cheap price. 
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 05:36:09 PM »

Yeh always peeling here with not much intention of giving up the hand unless oppo turns his cards over and we see that we are beat.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2014, 05:51:19 PM »

I'd bet between 10-15k depending on a variety of fairly trivial factors. I'd shove now, we can't be drawing if we call and he can always level himself. I don't see his stack off range changing much if he has some sort of bluff.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 05:58:09 PM »

Would rather 3b/call than shove
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2014, 06:21:54 PM »

Thanks for the comments.

If we peel and the turn doesnt help us or complete draws, then he jams. What do we do?

So turn is say 

He shoves.
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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2014, 06:37:59 PM »

Prefer to keep calling down, maybe fold if a heart comes. So yeah when the 9 comes i'd put the chips in, if he got a set he got it.

Think with 3b flop we might lose some like Qx hands finding out where they were at, and any rando bluffs he can have.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2014, 07:32:08 PM »

Would rather 3b/call than shove

Why? You think he has enough chips to 4 bet jam bluffs and draws and worse Q's?
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« Reply #8 on: July 08, 2014, 09:09:25 PM »

Would rather 3b/call than shove

Why? You think he has enough chips to 4 bet jam bluffs and draws and worse Q's?

I think we will put more hands that we best when we click rather than when we jam.
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« Reply #9 on: July 08, 2014, 10:23:49 PM »

Would rather 3b/call than shove

Why? You think he has enough chips to 4 bet jam bluffs and draws and worse Q's?

I think we will put more hands that we best when we click rather than when we jam.

Someone in a 250 is never going to 4b jam as a bluff over a flop 3b but might "put you on 99/AK/67/22/fd" if you shove.
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« Reply #10 on: July 09, 2014, 12:06:03 AM »

Thanks for the comments.

If we peel and the turn doesnt help us or complete draws, then he jams. What do we do?

So turn is say 

He shoves.

Snappety mcsnapping 90% of turn cards
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« Reply #11 on: July 09, 2014, 09:24:06 AM »

What if there are no spades on flop and we therefore have no backfire flush draw. We still peeling? Or jamming. Nobody is suggesting folding here
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« Reply #12 on: July 09, 2014, 02:19:42 PM »

I'd be all-in now.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 06:32:13 PM »

Does nobody soul read fold here on the flop? Not like he has the stack for this bet to be anything but than nuts hands right?

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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 06:39:22 PM »

He's got like 25bbs effective to start the hand, he's flatted out of the bb, we make top top and really want to fold? What are we giving him here, 44 and 66 and thats it? I'm pretty happily getting it in here, just jamming it in his eye. Whoever he is doesn't necessarily have to know about pot size, effective stacks, appropriate raise sizing etc in a 250 liveament, so this definitely isn't just one of two sets.
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